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What About The Sabbath?
The reason For My Faith ^ | 11/7/21 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 11/07/2021 8:02:52 AM PST by OneVike

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I am off to church, so I will respond to any questions after I return home.
1 posted on 11/07/2021 8:02:52 AM PST by OneVike
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To: OneVike
The Sabbath is NOT "Jewish" Law. It was instituted at Creation. It was re-emphasized to Moses at Mt. Sinai that it was still valid. Moses was Hebrew not Jew. This(The Ten Commandments) Law was for all of mankind. Jesus is our Example and He kept it (even in death). The differences between Jewish ceremonial laws and the Ten Commandments are stark and no serious scholar of the Bible would conflate them.
This topic has been discussed here many times and nobody has changed their mind that I know of so I see little value of it being done so today. Nearly everyone goes with what they have been taught and raised in instead of the plain word of the Bible. So let's just let this one go.
2 posted on 11/07/2021 8:13:16 AM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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No, this has not been, otherwise you would know the truth and accept it.

I’m off to church, but your name says it all, Bipolar.

You claim to follow the World of Christ, yet you are stuck in the legalism of the law.

Chose one or the other. You cannot be of Christ if you cling to the law.


3 posted on 11/07/2021 8:16:39 AM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

The commandment, the first one dealing with mans activities within the world, is keep holy tge sabbath.

The tenets of the Catholic Church, in particular, include participation at Mass every Sunday, not doing so is a Mortal Sin

The Cure D’Ars, St John Vianney, commented that in France during his time, had no regard for tge sabbath and tgat this was the cause of much evil in the country

Driving through town I am sometimes amazed yo see so much retail going on. I still fr Percy things to be quiet, stores closed as it was whe I was a kid. It was normal. People ignore God for commanding a day of rest and of devotion to the creator

We look at birth control and abortion as the evil causing all this

I’m not so sure that blowing off tge sabbath is so lacking in consequences


4 posted on 11/07/2021 8:18:15 AM PST by stanne
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To: OneVike

What About The Sabbath?


If Jesus abolished the law, did he set up a lower or higher standard to replace it? Lower expectations, like Saturday Night Live?

All indications to Bible readers are the standards went higher. Even thinking about something was the same as doing it.

But people like the idea of the Sabbath day. It is a prescription, do this and you are ok. Take your medicine and you will be good.

So what replaced the law? The temple was destroyed, the ark disappears, the priestly system and sacrificial system removed. The curtain was ripped from top to bottom.

What was left? A direct relationship with God the Father through the Holy spirit and Jesus.

Love the Lord you God with all your heart became the new standard. Now that is a tough standard that requires a lot of grace.


5 posted on 11/07/2021 8:26:37 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: OneVike
Are Christian bound by the "curse of the law" (as Paul called it), or not?

Please note Jews do not believe Gentiles have to observe the Sabbath.
It's not one of the laws of Noah.

6 posted on 11/07/2021 8:27:55 AM PST by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: OneVike
Thank you for preaching the New Covenant of Grace. We need more of that.

Under the New Covenant of Grace which supplants the discarded Old Covenant of the Law (Heb. 8:13), our "sabbath" day of rest is actually, as it was meant to be for Israel, our Promised Land - not a physical territory, but a position and destiny God has for his people.

Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ” although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.... There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. Let us therefore labor to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
Heb. 4:1-3,9-11.

So today, our sabbath rest is to rest and flow in God's works finished from the foundation of the earth.

As David said, "This is the day the Lord has made, I will rejoice and be glad in it." Psalm 118:24.

Much more to be said about this, but this is our destiny and should be our goal. The only place under the New Covenant where we are told to "labor" and "fear" because outside of God's rest we are not living the victorious life God has meant for us.

However, unfortunately, like Israel, few believers actually enter into their "Promised Land" of rest, blessing, and abundance. Think about it (maybe you have). Only two out maybe three million who came out of Egypt entered the Promised Land of Canaan (Joshua and Caleb). That's 0.0001%. I'm not sure our % is much better today.

May we "be afraid" and "labor" to enter into our Sabbath Day of rest God has for us in our Promised Land.

7 posted on 11/07/2021 8:34:33 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: OneVike

“You cannot be of Christ if you cling to the law.”

Paul referenced keeping the law as a means of obtaining salvation through works, which he describes as impossible. He affirmed the law (Ten Commandments) as a matter of personal conduct. The “law” to the Jews contained about 600 rules.

But in his long list of the works of the flesh that kept people out of the Kingdom of God, Sabbath breaking was not on it.


8 posted on 11/07/2021 8:36:00 AM PST by odawg
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To: stanne

I’m not so sure that blowing off the sabbath is so lacking in consequences


It is not the day that is important.

Doing has no value to God, He does not want our sacrifices and offerings and doing, he wants our hearts.

If He has our hearts he has us completely.

Some honor God one day, some another, some everyday is the Sabbath.

Jesus worked on the Sabbath and also rested on the Sabbath.

What is on our hearts with every thought? OUch..............


9 posted on 11/07/2021 8:36:02 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: OneVike

Christ was born on the New Moon Day when the woman was clothed by the sun and the moon was under her feet.

A day that the temple gate was to be opened, like the Sabbath Day.

On the 8 day, Christ was circumcised.
According to scripture, the 8th day of the Father’s calendar months, is the 7th Day sabbath.

So, Christ born on an appointment day.
Christ circumcised on the Sabbath.
Christ died as the Passover Lamb, the 14th Day of the Father’s months.
According to scripture, Passover is the Father’s 6th day.
It makes the 15th, or Day Christ laid in the tomb, resting from finishing all His Work, the 7th Day Sabbath.

Christ’s circumcision, and burial rest occur on the Father’s Sabbath Day.

The last, great day,the 22nd Day, is also the Father’s 7th Day Sabbath, according to scripture.

That’s the day that is recorded that Christ stood up and stated that all that believe in Him, out of His belly should flow rivers of living water.

A day that foreshadows a 3rd prophetic week that began on the 16th Day, Resurrection Day. First Fruits Day, Wavesheaf day.
And will end on the 6th and final work day, the 21st day, the day before the 7th Day Sabbath, the 22nd Day, the Father’s 7th Day Sabbath..

A full 22 letters of Hebrew alephbet begining and ending.
The first and the last.

Each of the first 3 weeks on the Father’s calendar, commemorating the first and last, the beginning and the end.
The work of Creation,Redemption,Sanctification.
Each of those Sabbath days pointing to the Son.
The Master of the Sabbath.

Those are His Days.
Circumcised on the 1st Sabbath
Resting in the tomb on the 2nd Sabbath
Will reign and rule on the 3rd Sabbath

The 4th Sabbath every month points back to Moses and the 10 Commandments and Feast of Weeks.
Where 3,000 were slain.
And the same day about 2,000 years ago, the Feast of Weeks, when the Holy Spirit came down, and about 3,000 were slain.

According to scripture, it’s all about Him.
His plan,His patterns. His glory

And for most of the year,the world has no idea when His Sabbath is.
Because His Sabbath isn’t Saturn day every week.
Because His week isn’t Satan’s Sunday,Moon day, Tiws day, Woden’s day, Thor’s day, Frigg’s day, Saturn’s day

But religion would beg to differ
Those who follow the Lamb will know the Truth of the Sabbath.
And the Truth will set them free.

Christ the Passover Lamb
Vs
Christ the Good Frigg day Lamb

Islam,Judaism and Christianity has made their choice

And the Day of the Lord will come
And Satan’s days are numbered.
Mene Meme


10 posted on 11/07/2021 8:41:47 AM PST by delchiante
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To: PeterPrinciple

Jer_31:33 “But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,” says the LORD. “I will put My instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be My people.

Heb_8:10 But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day, says the LORD: I will put My laws in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be My people.


God clearly states what the new covenant is. A direct relationship, one that He directs, not us.

How do you know God has a relationship with you?


11 posted on 11/07/2021 8:42:06 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: OneVike
This topic has been discussed here many times
No, this has not been, otherwise you would know the truth and accept it.
I have been on and participated many times on this topic. You are the one unfamiliar with truth.

You claim to follow the World of Christ, yet you are stuck in the legalism of the law.
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
Don't do things that the Lord hates.

You cannot be of Christ if you cling to the law.
Like the serpent in the garden, you mix a little truth with a little lie for your syllogism. Shall we murder? Shall we worship false gods? What say ye? If not, why not? No law, right? Wrong. Ps. 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, refreshing the soul. The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy, making wise the simple. One cannot expect the law to save them. It cannot do that. That is not its purpose. Only the Blood of Christ saves but that does not relieve us of our duty to follow Gods Laws wrote with His finger in stone. God changes not.

12 posted on 11/07/2021 8:48:41 AM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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Throughout His ministry, Jesus never once broke the fourth commandment which required that all Jews observe the Sabbath.

How does this assertion comport with the fact that Jesus healed afflicted persons seven times on the Sabbath?

Regards,

13 posted on 11/07/2021 8:51:49 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: PeterPrinciple; OneVike

Actually the death of Christ gave us a much higher standard - GRACE.

The Old Covenant of the Law has been replaced by the New Covenant of grace (Heb. 8:13).


14 posted on 11/07/2021 8:56:19 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Some honor God one day, some another, some everyday is the Sabbath.

Not to God it isn't. "If you Love Me keep my Commandments", remember? If we honor God we will keep His Commandments, otherwise we are honoring someone else. Someone who leads us astray. They say one day is as good as another. What difference does it make? Well it matters to God and He's the one we should be listening to instead of these false leaders. He said "…8Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God, on which you must not do any work—"

Funny that this is the ONE Commandment that starts with the word "REMEMBER" as if people would forget or think it was of no importance. It's in the Bible.

15 posted on 11/07/2021 8:59:19 AM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: BipolarBob

Jesus “worked” on the Sabbath.


16 posted on 11/07/2021 9:03:42 AM PST by roving
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To: alexander_busek
How does this assertion comport with the fact that Jesus healed afflicted persons seven times on the Sabbath?

It comports quite nicely. This was not work like a shoemakers who cobbles shoes. This was doing the Lords work for the glory of God. Someone was in pain or distress. God is a God of love and this was demonstrated. It was not for profit or other motives man devices to excuse their behavior. Does the sun shine on all seven days? Does the rain fall on the Sabbath? Be glad that it does. God wills all of it else we perish.

17 posted on 11/07/2021 9:04:15 AM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: roving

Yes He did.


18 posted on 11/07/2021 9:04:52 AM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I’m just saying what the Catholic Church says

I’m not interested is converting to your made up church

Take it or leave it. But. You can watch for the anti Catholic FR flame fest which you have thrown down on


19 posted on 11/07/2021 9:06:01 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
We look at birth control and abortion as the evil causing all this

Birth control and abortion are not the cause of the evil in this world.

They are among the symptoms of the evil, not the cause of it.

20 posted on 11/07/2021 9:37:56 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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