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John Darby Did Not Invent the Rapture
Rapture Ready ^ | 6/21/23 | Gene Lawley

Posted on 06/22/2023 3:01:47 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

One of the issues being promoted by a rising belief system of theology is that a pre-tribulation Rapture of the church is not Bible truth. It is claimed that such doctrine is a fabrication of one John Nelson Darby of Ireland (1800-1882).

Therefore, we are being taught that any such references to the Rapture are just garbage and without merit. Any Scripture that makes such a reference is said to be presenting aspects of Christ’s Second Coming. Much has been written and published on the Internet, easy to find if one wants to know about this issue.

Darby was apparently an active and well-known figure in the mid-1800 theological circles, having supported Calvin’s views. He wrote favorably of Calvin’s analysis of Election and Predestination. At a conference in 1832, he presented his views on the pre-tribulation Rapture doctrines. His biographer, William Kelly (1821-1906), wrote of Darby, “A saint more true to Christ’s name and word I never knew or heard of.”

But well before Darby, there was a strong belief in a pre-tribulation Rapture. After the times of the Apostles, there were writers expounding belief in the “imminence” of Christ’s return, which finds its basis in a pre-tribulation Rapture—that is, “nothing stands in the way of His coming at any time.” This, of course, is still held by many today, although we know that Jesus never made a promise or prophecy that He did not intend to fulfill.

Clement of Rome (35-101) and Ignatius of Antioch (died 110) were of this frame of mind. Apparently, Irenaeus of Lyon (120-202) was a pre-tribulation believer, and he was a disciple of Polycarp, a disciple of the Apostle John. He wrote of his views in that arena of thought in his book, Against Heresies.

So we see briefly a few of the many examples of the belief that a pre-tribulation Rapture is biblically true and has been articulated steadily well before John Darby is said to have “invented” that doctrine.

Many books and articles are being written today that attempt to explain the Scriptures, and believers rush to find out what this new author has to say. But wait a minute! What does the Bible say about it? (And here I am, writing an article to explain what the Bible says!)

Nevertheless, tracing the whole counsel of God on an issue is bound to produce God’s viewpoint, given the awesome truth of Proverbs 9:10b. “And knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.”

No wonder Jude, the brother of James and half-brother of Jesus, was brought to urge believers to “earnestly contend for the faith that was ONCE FOR ALL given to the saints.” (Capitals used for emphasis.) “Contend” means to fight for it, and “once for all” means there are to be no changes to it, and it is for everyone. Jude wrote this possibly just before the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.

So, you ask, where did the Rapture doctrine begin?

An example of it was in the experience of Enoch, the early man of faith who “walked with God and he was not, for God took him” (Genesis 5:24). Then, there is the taking away of Elijah in a blazing chariot from heaven, as told in 2 kings 2:1-3.

But the actual workings of the Rapture are first introduced by Jesus Christ and told in John 11:25-26. It is the time of the death of Lazarus, and his sisters were weeping over his death. Martha said to Jesus, “Had You been here, my brother would not have died.”

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again” (John 11:23). Martha replied, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” (Here, she changed the context from the present to the future time of Lazarus’ resurrection.)

And Jesus makes this statement of that future event, later called the Rapture: “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die” (John 11:25-26).

Lay these two verses beside 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17, and you have an exact comparison: “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.”

Can you see how these Scriptures fit together to complement each other? They come under the broad classification of “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God” and its inclusive instruction. Both letters to the Thessalonians deal extensively with this undeniable event called the Rapture.

One of the troubling expectations of many Christians is that Jesus will return surprisingly at any time, even this afternoon, because He is said to come “like a thief in the night,” that is, unsuspectedly. Paul, though, told the Thessalonians, “But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. You are all sons of light and sons of the day….” (1 Thessalonians 5:4-5a).

Yet, we do not know the day nor the hour of His coming, specifically. The meaning of this is answered as we look at the next revelation in the Scriptures regarding the ingathering of the Rapture.

Why did God have seven special festivals or feasts set up on the Jewish calendar? They were not feasts that came out of Israel’s historical activities. They were given to Moses to be placed on their calendar every year in the future. They are laid out in Leviticus 23 according to their agricultural seasons that have to do with the times of harvest. (When I first realized the significance of these feasts, I wrote and posted an article entitled “Amazing Truths Hidden in Israel’s Feasts.” It bears repeating, at least simplified, for its importance to this article’s conclusion.)

The first one was the Passover festival, celebrating the time of Israel’s escape from Egypt’s bondage. At least, it was a reminder of that great work of God in their midst. But the feasts all were called “convocations” or rehearsals for future events. It turns out that they celebrate seven high-level events of the then-coming Christian era!

The first three, beginning with Passover about the middle of March in the Gentile calendar. They are the death, burial and resurrection of Christ where He, the Passover Lamb, was slain. Here He becomes the “first fruits of the resurrection.” The Scriptures are careful to establish that title for Jesus, as noted in Matthew 27:53. Jesus had died, an earthquake had shaken the city, and the vail in the temple’s Holy Place was torn from top to bottom: “And coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.”

The second feast, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, depicts the death and burial of Jesus in the tomb for three nights and three days “in the belly of the earth.” We are told of what He did there, in the spirit, “taking captivity captive” (closing Paradise into heaven?) and “speaking to the spirits in prison” (Ephesians 4:8-9, Psalm 68:18, and 1 Peter 3:19 while His body lay in the tomb for those three nights and days.)

The third festival, the Feast of First Fruits, celebrates His resurrection, possibly twelve hours into that third night and day, early on Sunday morning, the first day of the week. Thus, the Lord of the Sabbath brought with Himself that Day of honor and delight in the Lord to the first day of the week and no longer on the last day of the week.

In the agricultural context, these first three feasts correspond to the sowing of the seed for eventual harvest, as John 12:24 depicts it: “Unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much grain.”

Fifty days later, a gigantic change took place, and the Spirit of God came upon the small band of believers who were waiting, as told to do, and the power of God was displayed in them. Called the Feast of Weeks, the Early Harvest, it corresponded to the barley harvest time for the farmers. At the preaching of Peter, three thousand became new believers from among those of many tongues who had come to celebrate the festival. It is called Pentecost since that time, a clear and definite Christian era event being celebrated by the Jews, not knowing what they really are identifying.

The fifth feast, called the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashana, comes in the fall of the year, depicting the final harvest of the season. It is called the “ingathering” in 2 Thessalonians 2:1, and every description of it seems to shout “Rapture.” One must ask whether or not God will fulfill this event in the order it is placed on the calendar or at some isolated place and time elsewhere. My understanding of the nature of God is that He will not be inconsistent with His formatted plan as depicted for all these centuries.

The tenth day after Rosh Hashana is the date of the Feast of Atonement when the “abomination of desolation” of Daniel’s prophecy occurs. The Jews discover their true Messiah is Jesus Christ, not this one who has befriended them with a seven-year peace covenant and permission to rebuild their temple (Daniel 9:27).

John writes of their discovery being prophesied in John 19:37: “And again another Scripture says, ‘They shall look on Him whom they pierced.'” He was referring to Zechariah 12:10, thus confirming that event’s expected fulfillment.

That evil one cancels their offerings and temple sacrifices and declares himself God, demanding all to worship him as God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

Then, the fifth day after that sixth festival, the Feast of Tabernacles occurs on the calendar, also called the Feast of Booths, to illustrate the coming of the Lord to the earth to establish His Millennial Kingdom based in Jerusalem, the city of Zion. Zechariah 14:4 tells us about His feet being planted on the Mount of Olives “on that day,” and the Mount is split into two sides with a valley in between.

It will be a very dramatic event and not anything like that return of Jesus described by the two angels in Acts 1:11: “This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

Therefore, “as we see the Day approaching, we who believe and proclaim the whole counsel of God say, “even so, Lord Jesus, come quickly” and put to rest those nay-sayers who so self-confidently twist the Scriptures to fit their truthless theories.

Large passages of Scripture are disregarded as meaningless, along with prophecies of the last days in their design for the end times, but God does not follow their plan. You can count on His sovereignty by His Word.

The “ingathering” of the final harvest of the church age so fits the annual timing of the seasons of the year, is it likely that God would not fulfill that high point of the church age at that time and put it somewhere else of an insignificant location? What, then, is the fulfillment of that fifth Feast of Trumpets? Why have the Jews been celebrating it for centuries if it has no significance?

Paul admonished Timothy to “study to show yourself approved of God, a workman not ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). We, here in the 21st century, will do well to follow that directive, for we know that God is, and who He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him (Hebrews 11:6).


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1 posted on 06/22/2023 3:01:47 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; telescope115; Halls; Mrs.Z; ConjunctionJunction; Library Lady; patriot torch; ..

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Maranatha!


2 posted on 06/22/2023 3:02:38 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The word rapture itself is nowhere to be found in the Bible, but the promise behind it is.


3 posted on 06/22/2023 3:14:33 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I believe there will only be one rapture and there win’t be anything secret about it. The verses used to support a secret rapture seems to suggest that we don’t know who is saved and who is not. That part is a secret.


4 posted on 06/22/2023 3:16:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Thanks for the references to the early church fathers. Most people just blow over their writings or grossly misrepresent them.
Now I’ll sit and wait for all the heretic hunters to chime in.


5 posted on 06/22/2023 3:16:45 PM PDT by GMThrust
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

God invented the “rapture” AKA “The Great Catching Up” as described in detail in scripture (for example, 1 Cor. 15:51-51 and 1 Thess. 4:15-18).

I try to add “AKA the great catching up” to the term “rapture” because of our legalistic modern-day Pharisee friends who have trouble seeing the forest for the trees.

The rapture is the soon-coming operation of our loving and merciful God that will save us from the wrath to come (1 Thess. 1:10, 5:9), the teaching of which is meant to comfort his children (1 Thess. 3:2, 4;18, 5:11; 2 Thess. 2:17).


6 posted on 06/22/2023 3:33:54 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: No name given

Actually it is in there, in the Latin versions.


7 posted on 06/22/2023 3:43:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The doctrine of the secret rapture is an invention and comes from new covenant theology of dispensationalism. This new covenant theology came about to get rid of the Sabbath. So they talked themselves out of the 10 commandments, they are confused on anti Christ, they are looking at Israel, they think the temple will be rebuilt, they think they are so special they will be secretly whisked away before the time of trouble......

It’s a doctrine for wimps. They want the crown without the cross. God didn’t rapture anyone out of the time of trouble....he went through it with them. Huss burned at the stake, millions of maryters murdered by the church of the dark ages, John the baptist beheaded, Isaiah cut in half, Peter hung upside down, Paul beheaded, millions of Christians today being burned to death, killed, tortured......

And this wimply doctrine says......oh, God is going to rapture you before the time of trouble. Yeah....right. Jesus himself said those days will be shortened for the sake of the elect. If the elect are already in heaven...why shorten the days?

Evangelical churches in North America are so deceived by this doctrine that no Protestant Reformer ever taught. And they believed in the 10 commandments too. They kept the wrong day but in the righy way and God honored that.

Now with this New Covenant twist, that’s all old and jewish...everything is Jewish with today’s evangelical as it concerns the Old Testament. They have pretty much tossed the only Bible Jesus ever had. the only Bible Paul ever had the only Bible the apostles ever had the only Bible the early church ever had.....

And that’s why you can’t tell a christian from a non Christian today....pretty much the same.


8 posted on 06/22/2023 3:49:23 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: No name given

No, but the word “rapturo” is. Also, other words that mean the same as “rapture.”


9 posted on 06/22/2023 3:51:04 PM PDT by madison10
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To: vespa300
We've been over this too many times to repeat and you've lost the argument. You cherry pick and ignore Scripture to suite your cult. At this point, I'm calling you out for what you are.

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10 posted on 06/22/2023 3:58:07 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Seem to have struck a nerve. No protestant reformer ever taught this doctrine of a pre trib secret rapture. It’s a doctrine for the faithless who want the crown without the cross.

They think they are so special, they won’t have to endure the time of trouble. Talk about narcissism. How come God didn’t rapture a few million martyrs off the rack or the stake? How come God doesn’t rapture the Christians today being tortured and killed? How come God didn’t rapture John the Baptist from losing his head.

God didn’t even rapture his own dear son. Get outta of here with your weak wimpy doctrine. It’s dispensationalism and this New Covenant twisted theology for weak Christians.


11 posted on 06/22/2023 4:05:02 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

We are special.

God’s Children - Made by Him, for Him, Forever!
Deal with it...


12 posted on 06/22/2023 4:22:51 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Thanks for the article. There will be scoffers, Peter wrote about that. Also, in 2nd Thessalonians 2:1-5, the Geneva Bible reads as follows:

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our assembling unto him, That ye be not suddenly moved from your mind, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as it were from us, as though the day of Christ were at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that the man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition, Which is an adversary, and exalteth himself against all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he doeth sit as God in the Temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

JD Farag preached a sermon about that passage, and how in the Geneva Bible it doesn't say "falling away," but "a departing."

The Matthew's Bible says the same thing:

We beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and in that we shall assemble unto him, that ye be not suddenly moved from your mind, and be not troubled, neither by spirit, neither by words, nor yet by letter, which should seem to come from us, as though the day of Christ were at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means, for the Lord cometh not, except there come a departing first, and that that sinful man be opened, the son of perdition which is an adversary, and is exalted above all that is called god, or that is worshipped: so that he shall sit in the temple of god, and shew himself as god. Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

The Myles Coverdale Bible, developed from Tyndales work, says the same thing also:

We beseke you brethren by the commynge of or LORDE Iesus Christ, and in that we shal assemble vnto him, that ye be not sodenly moued fro youre mynde, and be not troubled, nether by sprete, nether by wordes, ner yet by letter, which shulde seme to be sent from vs, as though ye daye of Christ were at hande. Let noman disceaue you by eny meanes. For the LORDE commeth not, excepte the departynge come first, and that that Man of synne be opened, euen the sonne of perdicion, which is an aduersary, and is exalted aboue all yt is called God or Gods seruyce, so that he sytteth as God in the temple of God, and boasteth himselfe to be God. Remembre ye not, that whan I was yet with you, I tolde you these thinges?

Man I love the old English. Bottom line, there is direct biblical inference to the Rapture. We just have to look back at translations that weren't corrupted by the religious system of the time. And as much as I hate to say, and only because the King James is the longest running translation out there still widely used, earlier translations, in many spots, were more accurate.

There is also a book/pamphlet entitled "The Falling Away - Spiritual Departure or Physical Rapture?" by Dr. Andy Woods that can better explain this premise than I can. It's a good read.

13 posted on 06/22/2023 4:23:11 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: ducttape45

Thank you brother for the post and truth.
Interestingly, The Geneva Bible predates the King James Bible by 50 years - so there goes that old “Darby Invention” lie that folks keep repeating.

Andy Woods also has a treasure trove of documents to help those with discernment on the issue.

Appreciate your posts as always!


14 posted on 06/22/2023 4:31:33 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Matt 24: 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

When? “immediately after” .... what? “the Tribulation”
what happens? ... Jesus comes in the clouds of the heavens with power and great glory, and the trumpet sounds and ALL his elect are gathered unto the Lord. Jesus returning and his elect being caught to him in the clouds are one great event.


15 posted on 06/22/2023 4:50:27 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: GMThrust
This claptrap about the early church fathers believing in the rapture is nonsense.

"Clement of Rome (35-101) and Ignatius of Antioch (died 110) were of this frame of mind. Apparently, Irenaeus of Lyon (120-202) was a pre-tribulation believer, and he was a disciple of Polycarp, a disciple of the Apostle John. He wrote of his views in that arena of thought in his book, Against Heresies."

By all means, study the early Church Fathers, and then tell us what writings refer to something other than the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. or the Second Coming of Christ.

16 posted on 06/22/2023 4:56:45 PM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: vespa300

Yikes. So wrong and certain about it.


17 posted on 06/22/2023 4:58:03 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Joel Richardson has a whole series of videos on YouTube debunking the contention that the early church believed in a pre-trib rapture.


18 posted on 06/22/2023 4:58:55 PM PDT by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers)
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To: vespa300

The VENOM and ANGER you communicate makes clear your error.


19 posted on 06/22/2023 5:00:43 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
It is an honor to share information that will help folks with the truth.

The Coverdale and Matthew's Bible each came out in the 1530's, which came out even earlier than the Geneva and adds still more credibility to the pre-Tribulation Rapture. I love reading the older versions and right now I am reading thru the 1599 Geneva Bible my mother got for me many years back.

God bless brother!

20 posted on 06/22/2023 5:06:47 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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