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Hey, Aren’t You the Antichrist?
Rapture Ready ^ | 12/2/23 | Todd Strandberg

Posted on 12/03/2023 5:52:37 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: MuttTheHoople

He’s an anti-Christ, but not THE Anti-Christ.


21 posted on 12/03/2023 7:47:04 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Ha!
😆


22 posted on 12/03/2023 7:49:54 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: grumpa

So many incorrect assumptions in one post.

Congrats!


23 posted on 12/03/2023 7:51:03 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: lurk

It’s amazing how that strange viewpoint that it all happened in 70 AD picked up speed among the scripturally ignorant.


24 posted on 12/03/2023 7:53:01 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: MuttTheHoople
Barack Obama doesn't have the work ethic to be anti-Christ.

Beaming with pride after completing his magnum opus,

"Good enough for government work!" ~ Satan

25 posted on 12/03/2023 8:02:45 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: All

Preterism

What follows is excerpted from a paper entitled

A Case for the Futurist Interpretation of the Book of Revelation
by Dr. Andrew Woods

“Revelation’s ‘Time Texts’

“The argument most relied upon by preterists to contend for a first century fulfillment is Revelation’s so called ‘time texts.’

“Because Revelation makes use of the words ‘shortly’ or ‘quickly’ or tavcos (Rev 1:1; 2:16; 3:11; 11:14; 22:6, 7, 12, 20), ‘near’ or ‘at hand’ or ejgguvs (Rev 1:3; 22:10), and ‘about to’ or mevllw (1:19; 3:10), preterists believe that they have the literary license to locate the fulfillment of most of John’s prophecies in A.D. 70.

“However, the preterist errs in assuming that these words are technical expressions that always have the same definition every time they are used.

In fact, each of these terms has a broad semantic range and therefore its meaning must be determined by its context rather than through the imposition of an artificial ‘one size fits all’ grid.

“For example, besides always understanding these words chronologically indicating when Christ will return, it is also possible to understand them adverbially or qualitatively indicating the manner of Christ’s return.

“In other words, when the action comes it will come suddenly or with great rapidity. The New Testament allows for such a usage. For example, while it is true that Scripture often uses ‘shortly’ or ‘quickly’ (tacos) in a chronological sense to indicate ‘when’ (1 Timothy 3:14), Scripture also uses the same word in a qualitative sense to indicate ‘how.’

“For instance, Acts 22:18 uses tacos to indicate manner when it says, ‘Make haste, and get out of Jerusalem quickly, because they will not accept your testimony about me.’

“The LXX also displays an adverbial use of these expressions by using them in prophetic contexts that would not be fulfilled for hundreds and sometimes thousands of years or more into the future (Isa 13:22; 51:5; Zeph 1:7, 14; Obad 15; cf. Isa 5:26; 13:6; 58:8; Joel 1:15; 2:1; 3:14).

“Given the broad semantic range of these terms, ‘context is king’ in determining whether the chronological or adverbial meaning is applicable.

“Because the context of Revelation involves global events that have not yet come to pass, an adverbial rather than a chronological meaning should be assigned to these words.

“While Revelation’s ‘timing texts’ pose no obstacle to the futurist interpretation, these texts pose considerable problems for the preterist interpreter.

“Partial preterist interpretive problems are created by the fact that Revelation’s ‘timing texts’ are found at the end of the Book of Revelation as well as the beginning (Rev 22:6, 7, 10, 12, 20).

“The partial preterist system still wants to hold to a future bodily appearing and final judgment (Rev 20:7-15).

However,the use of tavcos and ejgguvs in Revelation 22 is injurious to the partial preterist system, because the existence of these words at the end of the book logically leads to the conclusion that the entire Book of Revelation was fulfilled in A.D. 70 rather than just most of it.

“If the use of tavcos and ejgguvs in the early chapters of Revelation lead partial preterists to conclude that most of the book’s prophecies were fulfilled in A.D. 70, then surely these identical words found at the end of the book should also lead to the conclusion that the entire book was fulfilled in A.D. 70...”

https://www.pre-trib.org/articles/all-articles/message/a-case-for-the-futurist-interpretation-of-the-book-of-revelation/read
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Here are additional resources debunking the false teachings of Preterism and partial Preterism:

Has Bible Prophecy Already Been Fulfilled?
by Dr. Thomas Ice
https://www.pre-trib.org/articles/all-articles/message/has-bible-prophecy-already-been-fulfilled/read

Preterism
by Dr. Randall Price
https://www.raptureready.com/2015/08/07/preterism-by-randall-price-pdf/

Gary Demar’s End Times Fiction
by Dr. Thomas Ice
https://www.pre-trib.org/dr-thomas-ice/message/gary-demar-s-end-times-fiction/read

A Review of Hank Hanegraaff’s The Apocalypse Code
by Dr. Thomas Ice
https://www.pre-trib.org/articles/all-articles/message/a-review-of-hank-hanegraaff-s-the-apocalypse-code/read

An Assessment of Kenneth L. Gentry’s Internal Evidence for Dating Revelation
by Dr. Robert Thomas
https://pre-trib.org/dr-robert-thomas/message/an-assessment-of-kenneth-l-gentry-s-internal-evidence-for-dating-revelation/read


26 posted on 12/03/2023 8:48:08 AM PST by onthelookout777
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

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27 posted on 12/03/2023 8:49:52 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“The Rapture is a Dead Giveaway”——
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Did I miss It ?


28 posted on 12/03/2023 9:09:19 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: grumpa

So tell me when the thousand year reign of Christ was when Satan was bound for 1,000 years.

I missed that in history class.


29 posted on 12/03/2023 9:20:16 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

The Wedding Fiesta is Something you
Could Not Mistake !


30 posted on 12/03/2023 9:41:23 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Big Red Badger

Especially for us who are the Bride.


31 posted on 12/03/2023 10:25:31 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: onthelookout777

Dr. Thomas Ice is a gem!
Thanks for the links.

We are not destined for Wrath for for Salvation in Christ.

These heretics who IMHO hate the Gospel and hate the idea of being with Christ, just love working for the other side in order to attempt to “debunk” the Bible.

1 John 2:16 seems to escape them. There’s a lot of pride in wanting to run things your own way instead of allowing The Lord to do it.


32 posted on 12/03/2023 12:25:26 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: JohnEBoy

I agree with most of your post.
AC could also be a Trump type (Musk?) as well.

The technology part is a huge reason why I believe we are right on the cusp of Daniel’s 70th week.

Musk and Branson want to colonize the Moon and Mars.
Revelation doesn’t refer to that. As a matter of fact, it refers to “Earth Dwellers” nine times in Revelation.

We’re close...


33 posted on 12/03/2023 12:28:25 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Big Red Badger

I think Strandberg had blinders on in this essay. He wrote it addressing Believers in the “Pre-Tribulation” Rapture, not those who don’t believe in it, deny it, or have no understanding of it.

And no sir, you did not miss it. :)


34 posted on 12/03/2023 12:30:44 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: metmom

Catholics and other preterists truly think the thousand year reign is now.

Tell that to the mom that was gunned down last night in front of her kids who will now be orphans.

These jerks never cease to amaze me with their dishonesty and deceiving posts as to “Christs Reign”. 🙄

God must has a sick sense of humor if this is the “Reign of Christ”.


35 posted on 12/03/2023 12:32:38 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“Catholics and other preterists truly think the thousand year reign is now.
Tell that to the mom that was gunned down last night in front of her kids who will now be orphans.”

As you know, they misinterpret Luke 17:21, which has often been poorly translated as saying that the kingdom is “within you.” But the NASB translation gets it right:

Luke 17 (NASB)
20 Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed;
21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”
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Quote from
The Bible Knowledge Commentary: New Testament
by John F. Walvoord, Roy B. Zuck

Jesus was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come.

This was a logical question to ask, for He had been preaching for quite some time that the kingdom was at hand.

Jesus responded to the question in two ways.

First, He said that the Pharisees would not be able to tell of the coming of the kingdom through their observations.

Second, He told them that the kingdom was in their midst.

The term “within you” is often misunderstood.

The Pharisees were rejecting Him as the Messiah and were not believers.

(They were distinct from the disciples Jesus addressed beginning in v. 22.)

Thus it would not make sense for Jesus to have told the Pharisees that the kingdom of God was within them as if it were some sort of spiritual kingdom.

It is better to translate the phrase “within you” (entos hymon) as “in your midst.”

Some feel that the force of the expression is “within your possession or within your reach.”

Jesus’ point was that He was standing right in their midst.

All they needed to do was acknowledge that He is indeed the Messiah who could bring in the kingdom - and then the kingdom would come.


36 posted on 12/03/2023 1:04:08 PM PST by onthelookout777
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Okay FRiend...
I’m of the sort that’s not focused on the Rapture but God is in Control and I’m lucky to be here now and getting older.
I’ve read many books since ‘Late Great Planet Earth ‘ came out in the ‘70s.
Fifty Years Ago !?!
As a Believer I think one has to be open to Knowledge that grows in Love for God that’s Biblically founded.
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Through a Glass Darkly..then Face to Face.
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And So Come Lord Jesus !


37 posted on 12/03/2023 1:05:26 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

👍 and Blessings


38 posted on 12/03/2023 1:07:29 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It’s unbelievable.


39 posted on 12/03/2023 1:13:16 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: grumpa

Well, finally someone has said it!

Yes!


40 posted on 12/03/2023 3:31:52 PM PST by Beowulf9
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