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The Pope cannot overrule God
Christian Post ^ | 12/23/2023 | Dr. Michael Brown

Posted on 12/23/2023 8:36:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: ealgeone; Beowulf9
ealgeone: There was a bible (scripture) available to the believers very early on.

That is historically false

A Bible is a collection of books - 73 books.

There was no collection of Old Testament books together - these were multiple scrolls that were not bound together in one book until Jerome in the 300s

The Old Testament was not in one book but a series of scrolls - the Septuagint.

Jesus referred to the Septuagint - 46 separate books

Not all of Paul's letters were considered scripture prior to 67 AD

We see references in the Early Church fathers not only to these but to others like the Shepherd of Hermas etc.

The collection of these books happened under the Catholic/Orthodox/Oriental Orthodox Church - which had a Pope i.e. Bishop of Rome --> you even referred to the Church fathers, one of the earliest of whom was Clement of Rome - i.e. Pope Saint Clement of Rome - the third Pope after St. Peter = who was Pope from 8 AD to 99 AD

And Mass is there not only in the Didache but visible in the way the structure of the Mass is following the book of Revelation

61 posted on 02/19/2024 7:54:45 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

Bro, you’ve discredited yourself with just one comment. Anything you post, or have posted, is called into question. You are as some politely say…loose with the facts.


62 posted on 02/19/2024 8:00:00 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The book of Revelation is the structure of the Mass

1:10 Sunday worship
1:13 a High Priest
8:3-4; 11:1; 14:18 An Altar
4:4; 11:15; 14:3; 19:4 Priests (presbyteroi)
1:13; 4:4; 6:11;19:13 Vestments
4:8 The Holy, Holy, Holy
7:3; 14:1;22:4 The sign of the Cross
2:17 The Eucharistic Host
5:6 The Lamb of God
2-3;5;8:2-11 Readings from Scripture

You can also identify the Mass in the very structure of the book of Revelation:
First the seven letters calling for repentence (the Mass’s Penitential Rite, in which we repent of our sins)

Second a book with seven seals — the Liturgy of the Word, where the scriptures are opened and read

Finally the marriage supper of the Lamb - the Eucharist

The book of revelation shows us that the coming of the Lord is inseparable from the Liturgy. It is in Eucharistic celebration that the Lord truly comes to the church.


63 posted on 02/19/2024 8:01:22 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos
As I said, anything you post is and has been called into question. You’ve proven to be loose with the facts.

This is my last comment on this thread.

64 posted on 02/19/2024 8:19:09 AM PST by ealgeone
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