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Former Mormon lifts the lid on church's 'creepy' baptisms for the DEAD that sees children being put through 'traumatizing' ceremonies to 'save' those who have passed away
Daily Mail UK ^ | March 17, 2024 | Lillian Gissen

Posted on 03/17/2024 11:14:52 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

God gave all his living children FREE WILL. Our choice. Our consequences.


21 posted on 03/17/2024 12:18:33 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Morgana

A lot of you anti-Mormons have no idea what you’re talking about. You hear lies and misleading propaganda, much like this article, all the time. And you hear it from rabid Mormon haters.

This i like a liberal dimocrat telling people about Republican views and policies, and you take it as fact.

Mormons are in fact Christians and read the Bible and teach the Bible and pray to Jesus Christ and God the Father. And anyone who says different is a damn liar.

If you really, want to know about Mormonism why not have a conversation with those two young men or women the next time they knock on your door or ask a friend you trust who is a Mormon or ask one of the many Mormons on FR. And don’t argue, simply ask questions to clarify what you’ve heard.


22 posted on 03/17/2024 12:40:13 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Morgana

Classic case of pulling a scripture out of context, and building a doctrine around it.

1 Cor. 15:29 (written 30+ years after Christ’s resurrection) is in the middle of Paul defense of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, using the hypothetical view of if Christ is not risen, then converts of his that had died since, were followers in vain. Therefore, anyone being baptized into Christ, has been “baptized for the dead” Christ and his dead followers, and not for the living Christ (and those asleep in Christ).

Smith was not a martyr, he was a false prophet.


23 posted on 03/17/2024 12:41:43 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: monkeyshine

Its the dunking “torture” and being forced into a wet t-shirt contest that is abusive.

The things really have very little to do with anything. There are some other issues said to be related to some Mormons that causes me some issues.

The rest of her commentary is just her really just her personal uneasiness.

Its all fine by me, its not like people playing make believe retroactively cancels your baptism.


24 posted on 03/17/2024 12:43:52 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

We don’t look at things like that as shutting down operations. We simply encourage family. If you ever hear the phrase, “Families are forever” you know it’s a Mormon saying it.

Families are YUGELY encouraged in the church and larger than average families come with the territory. However some Mormon marriages do not have big families. Not a big deal.


25 posted on 03/17/2024 12:50:34 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian
Mormons are in fact Christians

Do you believe in eternal progression? Can you become "a god" of your own world someday?

Brigham Young said there were as many "gods" as there are grains of sand upon the seashore. Do you believe that?

That's not a Christian belief; it's quasi-polytheistic. Isaiah 43 through 45 are perfectly clear that there is only one God.

pray to Jesus Christ and God the Father

"Mormons pray—a lot, actually. They pray to God, not Jesus Christ, but in the name of Jesus Christ." -- link to "ldsblogs.com"

I'm seeing a lot of LDS sources, like this one, which reject the idea of praying to Jesus. Are they also "damn liars"?

Oh, and Christians don't believe that "God" and "Jesus Christ" are two distinct beings, but two divine persons of one divine being. What do you say?

26 posted on 03/17/2024 12:53:24 PM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: monkeyshine

Just re-read my post to you. I really stroked out there.

Maybe its time for ice cream and a nap before I poop myself.


27 posted on 03/17/2024 1:06:04 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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To: Morgana

This is the main reason that they’re a great resource for family genealogy as they’re back tracking and researching your family to baptize.


28 posted on 03/17/2024 1:11:22 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Campion

Not going to argue with you. You can believe what you want and I will not think badly of you unlike your thoughts of Mormons. You don’t understand the Mormon religion and other Christian religions and that is shown by some of your statements.

Mormons are good, conservative Americans and Christians, with the exception of Romney, Dingy Harry, Jeff Flake, and a a few other Mormon politicians.

Again, you know a lot about Mormons from anti Mormons and you’re not asking or listening with an open mind. You want to argue and that’s not conducive to learning.

Ask a friend who is Mormon about everything you just said.


29 posted on 03/17/2024 1:26:23 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Morgana; Elsie

Whats with the multiple Mormon articles ???


30 posted on 03/17/2024 1:29:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Chickensoup

It’s a useless, meaningless ceremony.


31 posted on 03/17/2024 1:36:32 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: fightin kentuckian; Campion; Elsie

Mormonism is not related to Christianity..

Joey Smith hated Christianity...

The Methodists kicked him out because of his pagan behavior and beliefs...

For instance in Mormonism their Jesus and Lucifer are brothers and sons of their Mormon god.....

They believe that one of their Mormon gods came down from their Mormon afterlife and had sex with their Mormon Mary to produce their Mormon Jesus who started out as a mortal man and became a god due to being a good man...

The LORD Jesus Christ of Christianity was the Word of God and started out in Heaven with God ...


32 posted on 03/17/2024 1:37:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Well, since you put it so convincingly.....


33 posted on 03/17/2024 1:41:52 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian; Elsie

The Mormon Tabernacle Choir sing so nicely dont they ...

One of their Mormon songs they sing in their religious ceremonies in their worship of Joey Smith starts off

Hail to the man who talked to Jehovah

but they dont have any songs about worshipping the LORD Jesus Christ..

They do sing Holy Holy Holy but the change the last line of the verse...

They dont sing God in Three Persons Blessed Trinity


34 posted on 03/17/2024 2:05:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: JAKraig; Elsie

Why do those kids do ‘baptisms for the dead ???

Whats it suppose to accomplish ???


35 posted on 03/17/2024 2:08:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Nan, wow, it’s almost like youre Mormon. Uncanny.


36 posted on 03/17/2024 2:11:28 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Morgana

I’m struggling to figure out why I should care about this


37 posted on 03/17/2024 2:17:04 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Technically, LDS is not Trinitarian so not considered a Christian Church.


38 posted on 03/17/2024 2:20:06 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: AppyPappy

Somehow you have more rules to qualify as a Christian? Guess what, someone somewhere has even more rules that disqualify you as a Christian.

Anyone who believes Jesus Christ and believes that Jesus is the redeemer is a Christian.


39 posted on 03/17/2024 2:40:05 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Morgana

I could never figure out why Mormons are willing to spend so much money on collecting, storing and distributing all the genealogy data they do. Come to find out, that’s the reason. They believe a descendant of someone who has dies “lost” can be baptized “by proxy” for their ancestor. But this can’t be done if you don’t know who your ancestors were.

They’re literally recruiting the dead. Which sounds like a demoncrat party campaign slogan.


40 posted on 03/17/2024 3:01:17 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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