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Priest's affidavit accuses late bishop
AP via North Jersey.com ^ | Wednesday, May 01, 2002 | JOHN CURRAN

Posted on 05/02/2002 7:48:10 AM PDT by history_matters

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Everything just keeps cascading out of the closet....
1 posted on 05/02/2002 7:48:10 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: MudPuppy; COBOL2JAVA; Diva; Diago; patent; Askel5; frogandtoad; Domestic Church; BlessedBeGod...
Homosexuality in the hierarchy.....

ping

2 posted on 05/02/2002 7:49:14 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: history_matters
Guess who was one of the ranking Bishops in charge of instituting and promoting Sex Ed in American Catholic schools? Bishop McHugh. Lackey for Bernadin. V's wife.
3 posted on 05/02/2002 7:55:07 AM PDT by ventana
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I am really distressed that this item has been moved to the Religion forum. It is news involving the use of the US legal system. It belongs in the News forum
4 posted on 05/02/2002 7:55:43 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: patent
See my post No. 4
5 posted on 05/02/2002 7:57:30 AM PDT by history_matters
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Have you gotten some feedback yet on what criteria they are using or are we to just keep a log of what moves (and what doesn't) and figure it out ourselves?

I have to admit, the moving of the AP wire story on Mahoney's hospitalization had me roaring.

6 posted on 05/02/2002 8:06:07 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: history_matters
Everything just keeps cascading out of the closet....

How much more -- and how far back does it go? I hope someone (fairminded, thorough and -- hopefully -- orthodox) is working on a definitive work.

I did a google search on Guilfoyle: he became bishop of Camden in 1968. Before that, from 1964 he was an auxiliary bishop in New York (where he was born). Is that during the time Spellman was in charge? I ask because that Shanley (the NAMBLA priest here in Boston) left a letter saying something about being molested in the seminary by the "predecessor to one of the cardinals" now accusing him. Most have taken this to refer to Medeiros or O'Connor, but someone on FR notes that, given his likely years in the seminary, he must mean Spellman or Cushing. I've never heard (and, more to the point, even Howie Carr never heard) any hint that Cushing was homosexual.

It just came over Fox that Shanley has been arrested in San Diego. I'll be back.

7 posted on 05/02/2002 8:11:43 AM PDT by maryz
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I am really distressed that this item has been moved to the Religion forum. It is news involving the use of the US legal system. It belongs in the News forum

How about answering her question?

8 posted on 05/02/2002 8:12:54 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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It just came over Fox that Shanley has been arrested in San Diego. I'll be back.

HANG HIM HIGH!

I know one presumes innocence until proven guilty, but this guy is a vile, filthy, guilty piece of human garbage (God forgive me). If there is any doubt, all you have to do is read some of the documents that the Boston Globe put on their website. They document what Shanley was advocating, some of what he wrote and some letters that were written to him. Not for the fainthearted.

9 posted on 05/02/2002 8:17:27 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: history_matters
Sad story in my opinion.
10 posted on 05/02/2002 8:44:34 AM PDT by Salvation
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My guess is that they're trying to avoid as many problems with certain people coming into Catholic-related threads and "relieving themseves" all over.

That doesn't mean I agree with their methodology...just my guess at their motivation. They probably noticed that the sheer volume is less if it is in the religion forum. So, if they see the word "Catholic" or "priest," into the ghetto it goes.

11 posted on 05/02/2002 8:48:37 AM PDT by B Knotts
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Press conference at 1:00 Eastern Time by the Boston DA's office.
12 posted on 05/02/2002 9:02:10 AM PDT by american colleen
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But they have left Paul Shanley (NAMBLA-Associated Priest) Arrested For Child Rape in San Diego in the News forum. There doesn't appear to be any consistency (other than leaving the negative threads in the news forum :-( ).
13 posted on 05/02/2002 9:14:32 AM PDT by ELS
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Great point.
14 posted on 05/02/2002 9:16:01 AM PDT by american colleen
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You found something other than negative in this article?
15 posted on 05/02/2002 9:21:22 AM PDT by Gargantua
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To: ELS
You have a point there.
16 posted on 05/02/2002 9:31:23 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: ELS
I don't really care on way or the other. Fact remains that however FR wishes to slant the "News" or dump in the Ghetto, Catholics will hold down the fort in either forum. We're everywhere, you know. =)

Because we've the benefit of understanding all too well how human are the Moderators, we can be a voice of reason as eventually (and I suspect it will happen) others end up asking the same questions and getting no answers.

(I have to admit I find it HYSTERICAL that -- for all the comparisons between this and LF of late -- it's the Libertarians who feel no need to segregate topics thus. I'm certainly not one to complain about their not practicing what they preach where the "keeping private" of all things religious is concerned. Turns out that in practice they're more like conservatives than conservatives themselves ... if this board's any indication. Quite a riot, if you ask me.)

Cheers.

17 posted on 05/02/2002 9:35:07 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Gargantua
No, let me clarify since the issue itself is not a positive issue in the usual sense. When a news article that has an accurate, truthful presentation of the facts (as opposed to an inaccurate, agenda-driven article) regarding this issue is posted in the news forum, before long it is moved to the religion forum. Those of us who have been trying to determine the policy (since it has not been stated, clearly or otherwise, by FR management) for which articles stay in the news forum and which don't have had great difficulty doing so.
18 posted on 05/02/2002 9:37:23 AM PDT by ELS
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Paul Shanley has been arrested in California.
19 posted on 05/02/2002 9:52:59 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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No wonder the statue of Padre Pio in Italy is weeping blood.
20 posted on 05/02/2002 9:57:19 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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