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The Dark
Chainmail

Posted on 03/13/2018 1:03:37 PM PDT by Chainmail

Some of you asked me to write some more about my experiences all those years ago. This one is about a close call and my memories of it.


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KEYWORDS: 1967; banglist; combat; marines; vietnam
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To: Chainmail

“The Dog Handler told me that when the dog silently alerted, he put his hand with the .45 on the dog’s head and fired at where the dog was looking.”

Pretty clever. I wonder if that is something he was taught, or just figured out then and there - being so dark and all.


21 posted on 03/13/2018 1:36:56 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Mariner
1. Do you always keep a pistol on your nightstand?

2. Do you refuse to travel without a firearm?

3. Do you sometimes find yourself checking to ensure you locked the house...a second time?

4. Do you get anxious in tight crowds, so much so that you avoid them?

In today's world that's just common sense.

22 posted on 03/13/2018 1:37:01 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Chainmail

Thanks for the Ping..

This is for LATER.


23 posted on 03/13/2018 1:38:00 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Mariner

Sounds like my Great Uncle Howie - he was on a ship that got Kamikaze’d in WWII. Took an upstairs room in my Grandparents house and would wake up screaming in the middle of the night as the dreams slunk in...took him a long time (mid 80s) to drink himself to death at the local VFW and was on a hair trigger if anyone seemed the least bit aggressive. I spent some time with him and heard some stories a pre-teen, early teen shouldn’t have to hear but I loved him dearly and he enjoyed my company too.


24 posted on 03/13/2018 1:38:56 PM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Chainmail

thankyou for your service in that crazy war and thankyou for sharing....


25 posted on 03/13/2018 1:40:08 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Chainmail

O_O


26 posted on 03/13/2018 1:40:53 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Chainmail
... he put his hand with the .45 on the dog’s head and fired at where the dog was looking.
A doggone good shot.
S/F ...
27 posted on 03/13/2018 1:41:33 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Chainmail

Thanks for the service brother.


28 posted on 03/13/2018 1:42:10 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: TTFlyer

“In today’s world that’s just common sense. “

It’s a matter of degree.

If you’ve ever known someone with PTSD, you’d recognize just how much fear they carry with them...every waking moment.

Even when they are not aware of it. They think it’s normal.


29 posted on 03/13/2018 1:45:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Chainmail

Outstanding. Thank you.


30 posted on 03/13/2018 1:46:12 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: 21twelve
"Pretty clever. I wonder if that is something he was taught, or just figured out then and there - being so dark and all."

I don't know if they are taught that or if that particular handler came up with it himself, but it was brilliant. The Dog Handler was a character with a shaved head and a really happy disposition. He acted as though was exactly what he expected to happen.

I wonder what the dog felt, having a .45 fired right over his face.

31 posted on 03/13/2018 1:50:48 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Mariner
1. Do you always keep a pistol on your nightstand?
2. Do you refuse to travel without a firearm?
3. Do you sometimes find yourself checking to ensure you locked the house...a second time?
4. Do you get anxious in tight crowds, so much so that you avoid them?
5. Are you often startled by your wife just because she approached you from behind in the kitchen...laundry room etc?...

I exhibit all of those, but never served. I was 4F from taking daily heart meds as a child.

Maybe I would have been a good soldier.
32 posted on 03/13/2018 1:56:33 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: Chainmail

Thank you for your service. I am very glad you are able to tell the tale.


33 posted on 03/13/2018 1:57:13 PM PDT by Jemian (Americans are dreamers, too.)
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To: Chainmail

Thank you for posting, and thank you for your service.

Please post some more if you can.


34 posted on 03/13/2018 1:57:25 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: TTFlyer; Mariner
Most of those..

As far as I know, anyone who goes through sustained tension and fear have long-term changes. I'm not sure what "PTSD" is but I do know that you will come back changed and somewhat flinchy.

I suspect that the survivors of the Pacific theater and the battles in Europe and the Korean vets as well as all of us who survived direct combat in Vietnam - as well as today's veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan - underwent the same changes.

35 posted on 03/13/2018 2:00:59 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

During my military time I needed a security clearance. During the process of obtaining the security clearance I had to sign a document that said that I would NEVER divulge anything that happened during my military experience as it related to U. S. security.

When I left the military again I had to sign a document that stated that I agreed to FORGET everything I learned and everything that happened during my military experience as it related to security of the U.S..

I suppose that if you did not have a security clearance nor did not have to sign any documents as above then apparently it is ok for you to write as you have done.

Otherwise, please keep your mouth shut or keep your fingers off of the keyboard when thinking about past military experience.

Do you know if you have violated U. S. military law?


36 posted on 03/13/2018 2:14:53 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: Chainmail

God bless you and THANK YOU for your service!
If you have a PING list, would you please put
me on it?
If you don’t have one, would you consider making one?
That was riveting!


37 posted on 03/13/2018 2:18:37 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
"Do you know if you have violated U. S. military law?"

You, Sir, are an idiot.

1. Nobody I ever heard of ever had to sign any documents requiring silence.

2. My experiences are mine to share if I choose to. You, on the other hand, are perfectly free to mind your own business.

38 posted on 03/13/2018 2:21:25 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Hubby was one of those dog handlers.


39 posted on 03/13/2018 2:21:48 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Chainmail

Gripping. Thanks!


40 posted on 03/13/2018 2:31:57 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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