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New Out-Of-Africa Theory Unveiled
Discovery News ^ | 2-25-2002 | Larry O'Hanlon

Posted on 02/27/2002 4:56:58 PM PST by blam

New Out-of-Africa Theory Unveiled

By Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News

Leaving the Mother Country

Feb. 25 — The human family just got even smaller.

Everyone outside of Africa — Asians, Europeans, Native Americans, Southeast Asians, Australian Aborigines, etc. — came from the same small band of humans that left the mother continent some 80,000 years ago by way of Ethiopia, according to a new theory unveiled Monday by geneticists and DNA detectives.

"No, we haven't found the bones of the original Eve," said DNA tracker Stephen Oppenheimer of Oxford University in a press teleconference.

Instead, researchers have followed the trail of mitochondrial DNA, which we inherit unchanged from our mothers, and backtracked down the branching tree of the human family throughout the world.

If the mitochondrial DNA story is correct, then we all descend from a woman who lived in Africa 150,000 years ago, said geneticist Martin Richards of Huddersfield University in England, who also took part in the briefing.

Oppenheimer and Huddersfield will appear in "The Real Eve," a Discovery Channel documentary premiering on April 21.

What's more, all non-Africans come from a small group of people who ventured out of Africa some 80,000 years ago, perhaps because of climate changes along the Red Sea shore that made life there too difficult, he said.(maybe it dried up during the Ice Age, huh?)

Genetic evidence of that small band can be found today in India, said Oppenheimer. "In India, all of the early lines that gave rise to Asians and Europeans are found in great profusion and great antiquity," he said.

For years anthropologists have debated whether humans left Africa by a northern route — via the present-day Suez Canal region — or by a southern route, via a short-lived isthmus connecting Ethiopia to Yemen at the southern end of the Red Sea. Some researchers have even suggested that Europeans descend from the people of the northern exodus and the rest of non-Africans from the people of the southern exodus.

But the DNA just doesn't support dual routes, said Oppenheimer and Richards.

"The fact that we look different is because we live in different environments," said Oppenheimer. "(But) we are really, truly the same under the skin."

The single exodus theory also meshes well with other genetic and archeological discoveries. Last year, researchers working on the Human Genome Project reported that the pool of human genetic material is startlingly small, implying we are a young species and come from a very small group of Africans.

However, not everyone is convinced of the single group theory, said paleontologist Tim White of the University of California at Berkeley. "My sense in it is that we're not close to the bottom line yet," he told Discovery News.

Genetics has yielded some new data to the mix, he said, but the smoke hasn't yet cleared enough to see the details of exactly when and where modern humans came out of Africa.


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Will someone please point out the new part to this theory?
1 posted on 02/27/2002 4:56:58 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The new part is the date: they now have moved it back from approximately 150-200 thousand yars ago to 80,000! This is PC balderdash!

The Homo erectus of China (Peking Man) of 400,000 years ago had specific dental and cranial traits that are unique to present-day Asians.

Explain that, PC-liars.

Please click here.

2 posted on 02/27/2002 5:10:55 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: blam
I've got a bridge to sell ya.
3 posted on 02/27/2002 5:22:59 PM PST by ThePoetsRaven
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To: Pharmboy
What is it about the thought of a common and recent African ancestor, that seems to bother you so much?
4 posted on 02/27/2002 5:45:15 PM PST by Mensch
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To: blam; Patrick Henry; Quila; Rudder; Donh; VadeRetro; Radio Astronomer; Travis McGee; Physicist...
(((ping))))


5 posted on 02/27/2002 5:50:59 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Bump for later perusal
6 posted on 02/27/2002 5:54:36 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: blam
"The fact that we look different is because we live in different environments," said Oppenheimer. "(But) we are really, truly the same under the skin."

By "we" does he mean all non-africans, or everyone.

7 posted on 02/27/2002 5:57:36 PM PST by Godel
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To: blam
Great questions for geneticists and anthropologists but as for little ol me.........I don't really give a darn where I originated from. I am Sicilian, which means Arabs, Greeks and Ethiopians etc inhabited and spread their seed many hundreds of years ago. If they all came from Africa, good. I have no problem with it "ALL" starting in Africa or Sweeden or Pago Pago. Just don't see how it matters.
8 posted on 02/27/2002 6:04:49 PM PST by PISANO
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To: Mensch
What is it about the thought of a common and recent African ancestor, that seems to bother you so much? O do not mean to speak for Pharmboy, but I do not think that the though itself is troublesome: it is the way the so-called scientists are going about it. Rather than a hypothesis, which the findings may reject, they seem to have an agenda of proving that which is already popular with the public. When you hear someone at this day and age saying "we are all the same under the skin," you know why he undertook this "research." One is curious how much of information that is contrary to the "findings" has been discarded to arrive the proper conclusion.
9 posted on 02/27/2002 6:04:49 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the ping. I'll wait for the dust to settle on whether an 80Kya dispersion makes sense.
10 posted on 02/27/2002 6:05:33 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Godel
"The fact that we look different is because we live in different environments," said Oppenheimer. "(But) we are really, truly the same under the skin."

Well, Phoenicians have lived in North Africa for several millennia by now -- a period of time comparable to that from the initial alleged exodus. How come no poeple seem to develop Negroid features because it lives in Africa after migrating from elsewhere?

11 posted on 02/27/2002 6:08:27 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Pharmboy
Homo erectus of China (Peking Man) of 400,000 years ago

Is it possible that Homo erectus evolved at several places on earth in stages? The Peking Man would have evolved first into modern man, others evolved later. Would the evolutes all have the same DNA? That hypothesis is popular in China.

12 posted on 02/27/2002 6:13:29 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: blam
"(But) we are really, truly the same under the skin."

This gives me hope that I an all white team will one day win the NBA trophy. Not.

13 posted on 02/27/2002 6:16:55 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: blam
Does this mean I can get a low-interest government loan as an African-American, or do I have to keep using the Native-American label?
14 posted on 02/27/2002 6:17:04 PM PST by JamesWilson
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To: blam
A ponder-later bump.
16 posted on 02/27/2002 7:01:05 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: TopQuark
I agree in general with your assessment, and god knows there are numerous examples of similar shenanigans amongst todays academicians. The rush to acceptance by the popular media of controversial hypothesis such as this is always a dead giveaway of one theorem or anothers political appeal

Never the less I'd like to hear it from Pharmboy himself.

17 posted on 02/27/2002 7:05:52 PM PST by Mensch
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To: Mensch
What is it about the thought of a common and recent African ancestor, that seems to bother you so much?

That, sir, is a softball. I have been in science my whole life and have a great deal of respect for data. When politics drives pronouncements based on contradictory data it ceases to be science. Stephen Jay Gould is the mother of all anthropology/evolution liars. They disregard contradictory evidence (and there is much).

Further, I infer from your question that you think I have an ulterior motive in lambasting this lunacy, i.e., I am a racist. You, perhaps are a liberal. Read more on the subject starting with the site I linked.

You do not sound like a mensch to me.

18 posted on 02/27/2002 8:59:02 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: RightWhale
Yes--this fits with the multiregional hypothesis and there are no data to refute it.
19 posted on 02/27/2002 9:00:13 PM PST by Pharmboy
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