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Disaster May Have Killed Ancients
BBC ^ | 5-19-2004 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 05/19/2004 1:44:47 PM PDT by blam

Disaster may have killed ancients

By Paul Rincon
BBC News Online science staff

Homo heidelbergensis appears about 600,000 years ago

The remains of 28 early humans found buried at the bottom of a cave shaft in northern Spain may belong to a group that died suddenly in a "catastrophe". Experts conducted an analysis to determine whether it was likely the bodies accumulated in the shaft over years or were dumped at the same time.

They concluded the 350,000-year-old death chamber may have held the victims of a disease outbreak or a massacre.

The study details are published in the Journal of Anthropological Research.

"We still don't know how they died. But what does seem increasingly clear is that the death of these people could have been simultaneous," Jose Bermudez de Castro, co-director of the Atapuerca excavation, told BBC News Online.

If you look at the 7,500 civilians that were killed at Srebrenica in the former Yugoslavia, you get the same age profile

Dr Andrew Chamberlain, University of Sheffield

The remains were recovered from a 14m-long shaft called Sima de los Huesos (the pit of bones) in the caves of Atapuerca, near the town of Burgos.

Atapuerca contains one of the richest records of prehistoric human occupation in Europe.

The bodies in the pit belong to a hominid species called Homo heidelbergensis, which may have been the common ancestor of the Neanderthals and modern humans (Homo sapiens).

Death and disasters

However, exactly how the bodies came to be deposited at the bottom of the shaft has always perplexed and intrigued those researchers that have excavated the site.

Professor Bermudez de Castro and his colleagues considered whether the remains in the pit fitted an attrition profile, in which individuals die one by one over long periods; or a catastrophic one, in which the dead cover the age spectrum of a population.

A single, pinkish-red stone axe was found in the pit of bones

Natural disasters, violence, epidemics of diseases such as influenza or bubonic plague and occasionally famine can be responsible for catastrophic mortality profiles.

The team compared the mortality profile of the Atapuerca remains with 26 other Homo heidelbergensis hominid remains from across Europe.

The proportion of individuals between the ages of 11 and 20 was 64% compared with just 39% for the other European sample.

"This corresponds best with a group of people who all died at the same time - a catastrophic profile," said Professor Bermudez de Castro.

"The only problem with this model is that we are missing the infants. But it is certainly a more rational model than the attritional one."

Victims of conflict?

In the research article, the scientists suggest that carnivores could have removed the bones of infants.

Dr Andrew Chamberlain, a biological anthropologist at the University of Sheffield, UK, agreed with this broad assessment of the mortality profile.

"This profile is very similar to the kind of one you get in conflicts, with people who fight and die in battle; you get this peak of teenagers and young adults.

More than 7,000 Bosnian Muslims were killed at Srebrenica in 1995 "But in that young age group - there are more females than males. With combat mortality, the deaths are nearly all males.

"The other way you can get this age profile is deaths of non-combatants. If you look at the 7,500 civilians that were killed at Srebrenica in the former Yugoslavia, you get the same age profile.

"You could have one group of hominids attacking the other, with very large numbers killed. The problem is that we just don't know enough about the social behaviour of these early humans."

Professor Bermudez de Castro predicts that it will be difficult to progress further with efforts to understand how the Atapuerca hominids died.

"Skull 5 has a serious infection in his face. It's possible that he could have died from it, but the truth is we don't know," he explained.

"There are also signs of trauma in other individuals and it is possible that these traumas caused their deaths. But it is very difficult to give these people a death certificate."


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KEYWORDS: ancients; atapuerca; catastrophism; crevolist; disaster; godsgravesglyphs; killed; may
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1 posted on 05/19/2004 1:44:47 PM PDT by blam
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To: farmfriend

GGG ping.


2 posted on 05/19/2004 1:45:23 PM PDT by blam
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Well, we know one thing. However they died, it's all Booosh's fault!
3 posted on 05/19/2004 1:47:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Did you know bicyclespankentruppen passes the FR spellchecker?)
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To: blam

"Ancient disaster" - the global Noaich Flood


4 posted on 05/19/2004 1:48:35 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: blam
>>..."the death of these people could have been simultaneous"...<<

Or not.

5 posted on 05/19/2004 1:50:03 PM PDT by FReepaholic (War On Terror: If not us, who? If not now, when?)
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To: blam
Any connections to the CLINTONS or the KENNEDYS?
6 posted on 05/19/2004 1:51:09 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: blam

What better way to dispose of bodies than to throw them into a deep cave shaft.


7 posted on 05/19/2004 1:53:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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"However, exactly how the bodies came to be deposited at the bottom of the shaft has always perplexed and intrigued those researchers that have excavated the site."

Gonna' go way out on a limb here ... (or maybe it'll be down a deep hole ... ),but,

Couldn't these have been miners caught by a cave in?

8 posted on 05/19/2004 1:55:54 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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9 posted on 05/19/2004 1:56:34 PM PDT by Junior (Sodomy non sapiens)
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I suspect this was an ancient wedding party, and like a flying dinosaur fell on them. (At 2:45AM)...parsy.


10 posted on 05/19/2004 2:01:24 PM PDT by parsifal
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11 posted on 05/19/2004 2:10:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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12 posted on 05/19/2004 2:24:22 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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LOL! It looks as if you've identified the missing link.


13 posted on 05/19/2004 2:27:53 PM PDT by pickemuphere
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List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.
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14 posted on 05/19/2004 2:28:25 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 05/19/2004 2:48:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: blam

"If you look at the 7,500 civilians that were killed at Srebrenica in the former Yugoslavia, you get the same age profile,,,,"

Ah yes, science without any external politics to polute it.

Now that'd be a unique concept.


17 posted on 05/19/2004 2:50:55 PM PDT by norton
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As in muslim invasions for 1,300 years, there are no civilians. Mein Koran commands the faithful to kill all Jews: men, women, and children, the "spawn of pigs and monkeys".

No one should thank that islam was the first cult group/tribe to live genocide as its creed.

Is it nature or nurture?


18 posted on 05/19/2004 2:51:18 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: familyop
Remarkable resemblance!
19 posted on 05/19/2004 3:06:16 PM PDT by null and void (The owls are not what they seem...)
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Thanks. ...sorry about your keyboard, stendahl. ;-)

I like Anthropology stuff and don't usually interrupt with silliness, but remembering Pvt. England's forehead and expression in that photo, it was difficult to resist!


20 posted on 05/19/2004 3:20:22 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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