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The Political Veteran (Republican Senator From Nebraska, Chuck Hagel, Considering '08 Run)
Washington Post ^ | 11/15/04 | Robert G. Kaiser

Posted on 11/15/2004 5:50:11 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: brazzaville
It would be pretty funny.

It would be interesting to see who the first Democrat/Hollyweird/MSM person to make a racist joke would be.

Andy Rooney? Babs?

41 posted on 11/15/2004 7:44:33 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: All

Sold his soul for TV time. Forget it.


42 posted on 11/15/2004 7:47:04 AM PST by dighton
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I agree but lets hope it doesn't come to that.


43 posted on 11/15/2004 7:47:34 AM PST by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I only vote for him because I wouldn't vote for any dem these days. A lot of pubs in Nebraska don't care much for him, think he talked the right talk to get elected, but is a basic rino on most things. He's used the same methods Ben (bad hair-do) Nelson uses to get elected as a dem in a red state.


44 posted on 11/15/2004 7:54:05 AM PST by RJS1950 (The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RockinRight
Mitt Romney, MA governor. Please NO to this Guy Smiley pro-abortionist. He's good for Massachusetts but not the country.

Bill Owens managed to blow the Senate seat (which he could have held had he run) and needs to put his marriage back together. I've really soured on him. The CFG has made some weird endorsements and this would be another.

Pawlenty and Sanford I like (each has a reelection to go, and 2006 will be particularly telling for Pawlenty), but Sanford has some weird libertarian votes on his record ("I supported it but I voted against it because ....") which could come back to bite him.

Racicot is sketchy on conservatism and brings nothing electorally, and missed a chance to win us a Senate seat, and doesn't seem to have done much for the MT GOP.

Huckabee's a fatass who raised taxes (although he did a lot of other good things, including cutting taxes and social issues).

JC Watts I would love to support for Prez. But he may run for OK Gov in 2006 instead, which is good too. If he won he'd be the #1 far & away choice for VP in 2008.

George Allen was guv of Virginia and has retained the personal touch as a senator. He'd be good.

Rick Santorum I like but would not be a good national candidate.

45 posted on 11/15/2004 8:05:42 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Chuck Hagel (R-France) if by some strange fluke he's the nominee I will cast a write in vote for Zell Miller.


46 posted on 11/15/2004 8:07:02 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: MarcoPolo
I thought Condi was pro-choice. I don't think she's a social conservative, but I'd love to be proven wrong on that because I think she's of woman who carries herself with class and dignity. Do you know if she's pro-choice or pro-life?

I read that she was reluctantly pro-choice and that was a few years. I think she has left the door open for a change on that issue.

47 posted on 11/15/2004 8:12:29 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: JohnnyZ
?Huckabee's a fatass who raised taxes (although he did a lot of other good things, including cutting taxes and social issues).

OK, so did he raise taxes or cut them??

Just razzin ya!

Anyway, I think a Pawlenty/Sanford or Sanford/Pawlenty ticket has some potential. I seriously think these two guys are the most promising. I didn't think about George Allen, but he might be a good one too. We can't run a Frist (who'd be another Dole, as much as I respect both Dole and Frist, it's the truth), Hagel, hell no-and Giuliani and Pataki are too liberal.

I still think Rick Santorum could add some spice to a national ticket as a VP, might help electorally in PA. But-let's see how his 2006 re-election goes first.

I'm disappointed in Owens. He coulda been the one but he blew it.

48 posted on 11/15/2004 8:19:03 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: JohnnyZ
Pawlenty and Sanford I like (each has a reelection to go, and 2006 will be particularly telling for Pawlenty), but Sanford has some weird libertarian votes on his record ("I supported it but I voted against it because ....") which could come back to bite him.

You're right, Sanford has voted weird a couple times. Might make him better for the VP rather than the top. But-a few voters that may otherwise vote LP might go for Sanford. Besides, Pawlenty/Sanford would work-we'd have a new GOP governor in a traditionally Democratic but increasingly conservative state-this would get MN, as well as probably Wisconsin. Sanford would bring the South home.

49 posted on 11/15/2004 8:23:45 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: RockinRight
OK, so did he raise taxes or cut them??

Yes.

That's a good point about Santorum as VP. We need at least half the ticket from the Great Lakes/northern industrial, and we don't really have anyone for Wisconsin or Michigan (tho John Engler for Prez is a good idea, maybe VP) or even Ohio (Ken Blackwell if he gets elected governor).

50 posted on 11/15/2004 8:27:08 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I'm a native Nebraskan, and in fact from the same home town as Chuck Hagel, so I'd love to support him. But I think there are some really valid concerns, and too many Kerry-like nuances to the guy.


51 posted on 11/15/2004 8:29:36 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So, he's not up for re-election until 2008? Does he have to give up his seat in order to run for the Presidency? Vote this guy out of office, he's the biggest mess I've ever seen, even worse than McCain.


52 posted on 11/15/2004 8:30:58 AM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: JohnnyZ

Blackwell is another one. I live in Ohio and will be campaigning heavily for him in 2006, he WILL be our next Governor!

After that, maybe a Presidential run in 2016?? Or-if God forbid, we lose in 2008, maybe in '12.

Just don't take him from us that fast, we need to give him a couple years to straighten Ohio out!

There isn't anyone from Wisconsin or Michigan, you're right about that. Which is why I like Pawlenty, as well as Santorum.

I've heard Engler's name thrown around, but he's pretty RINOish from what I know about him.


53 posted on 11/15/2004 8:57:55 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: JohnnyZ

Addendum-Engler MIGHT be OK. I'd have to learn more about him, though.


54 posted on 11/15/2004 8:58:31 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Hagel is a pain in the butt, but according to his voting record he is hardly a RINO, especially the last few years.

Senator Chuck Hagel (R)
Nebraska
Republican, Years of Service: 7

ACU Ratings for Senator Hagel:
Year 2003 100
Year 2002 95
Lifetime 85

55 posted on 11/15/2004 8:59:45 AM PST by Gritty ("Jihadists are rather adept at devising tests customized for each group of infidels-Mark Steyn)
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To: miloklancy

Is there anyone who Republicans can rally around in Nebraska to replace Hagel?

I am so tired of watching this jerk placate the MSM at the expense of Republican principles and President Bush's policies.

Now is the time to start a "Hagel Out in 08" movement.


56 posted on 11/15/2004 9:17:59 AM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Sadly no. Nebraska has always had a shortage of good politicians. We may be a largely Republican state, but many of the Republicans in our state aren't the greatest folks serving today. Rep. Tom Osborne for instance only serves, because he is popular from his career as a football coach, but has no real valuable experience to serve in politics in my opinion.


57 posted on 11/15/2004 10:26:29 AM PST by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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To: Gritty
Thanks for posting the ACU ratings.

Hagel simply is not as liberal as many would like to portray.

I'm not sure he can capture the nomination, suffering perhaps the same charisma deficiciency that doomed Nebraska's former Democrat senator, Bob Kerrey, when he ran for president.

OTOH, Chuck Hagel owns more electronic voting machines than just about anybody in the country! Heh-heh.
58 posted on 11/15/2004 12:14:13 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

Ahh the ACU ratings do a nice job of shooting down the meme that Hagel is "Liberal". Thanks for posting them.

I don't always agree with Hagel, but I certainly wouldn't call him a liberal.

Amazing how quickly someone who has the gumption to speak up about his party's ills gets labeled a RINO.

I hope he runs, just to hold folks accountable after four more years of Bush in the White House. And because I hope he runs, he pushes back in the Senate some of the outragous spending coming out of Pennsylvania Ave that's been getting passed the last few years.


59 posted on 11/15/2004 8:23:35 PM PST by jmcclain19
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

For which Party?


60 posted on 11/15/2004 8:27:10 PM PST by Roy Tucker
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