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Democrats Out Of Step With American Voters {Rats Inflexibility On Homosexuality "Alienates Voters")
TownHall.com ^ | 11/16/04 | Armstrong Williams

Posted on 11/16/2004 2:17:22 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The Democrats are out of step with America and, if they want to be a long-term, stable governing body, that is going to have to change. Just ask the party's leading populist, President Clinton. He was waddling all over town in the months leading up to the election, imploring party leaders to abandon their support of a gay marriage amendment.

Clinton knew that the vast majority of Americans did not support the homosexual agenda. He knew that many voters would vote Republican solely on that issue. And like all great populists, Clinton knew that in a democracy, political leaders have to ingrain themselves in the popular culture. It's how leaders draw their legitimacy as a voice for the people. He could also see that the Democrats were on the verge of losing that legitimacy with their stubborn support of a gay marriage amendment.

Plainly, gay marriage is not an issue that Americans support. Despite the rhetoric that you hear from the homosexual Cosa Nostra, the lack of support for the gay marriage amendment has nothing to do with prejudice. It's not about trying to dictate to adults what they should do in the privacy of their own homes. Let's be clear about that. Opposition to the gay marriage amendment isn't about disallowing homosexuals the same basic rights we extend to everyone else. It is about recognizing that marriage between man and woman is the bedrock of our society. It is about the citizens of this country saying, en masse, that they are unwilling to deconstruct certain basic and essential norms in our culture and society.

Rightly so. Heterosexual marriage is deeply ingrained in our Western value system. To abruptly break from those values would have a disastrous effect on our society. For starters, it would speed along the breakdown of family and society. Pushing the homosexual agenda into the mainstream would also inevitably legitimize homosexual adoption. This is truly frightening. A child requires emotional consistency, gender stability and self-esteem. To abruptly break with social conventions by placing children in homosexual households would create for these children the sort of gender confusion and social scrutiny that ignites a lifetime of emotional turmoil. I am unwilling to martyr a generation of children just to make a political statement about homosexual rights. Nor am I willing to trash the most fundamental values of our culture. Most Americans feel the same.

Somehow, though, the Democrats don't get this. They hang on to the gay marriage amendment with mind-numbing intransigence. They say that homosexual unions cannot be disallowed simply because the state deems it immoral. Well guess what, the state can enforce a moral consensus. Otherwise this would be a land where pornography, drugs and prostitution would be unregulated, where women would be allowed to have abortions at any time during their pregnancy. If you accept that the state cannot enforce shared moral values, then you're saying that the state has no voice in any of these issues. Obviously, that's just not the case.

Ironically, homosexual unions aren't even a mainstream issue for the Democratic Party. Their chief concerns are welfare and a strong national government. Yet, if you ask voters what the Democrats are all about, they often say that the Democrats are about gay rights, separation of church and state and making our culture more relativistic. The Democrats inflexibility on homosexual unions has alienated voters.

And this is what President Clinton was trying to tell the Democrats in the months leading up to the election: if you have a political party that is viewed as fundamentally hostile to American culture and values, you're not interested in listening to them. The Democrats will never be a long-term, stable governing body until they get that through their heads.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: armstrongwilliams; election2004; gaymarriage; ratsmustevolve

1 posted on 11/16/2004 2:17:22 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I always thought it was more like, Democrats are out of step... in general.


2 posted on 11/16/2004 2:24:30 AM PST by AbercrombieChick
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To: AbercrombieChick

Are you up at this time of day by choice?
True story-my sister LOVES the homo agenda, (she is not gay) and cannot understand why everybody doesn't embrace it. She is all for partial-birth abortion, and can't see what the fuss is about.
She could not be persuaded that these issues would hurt the Dims in the election.
As far as I'm concerned, let them keep their delusions.
And, BTW, she has lost her mind over the election. No, not just got really angry, or feeling deeply dejected, she has went totally bonkers. I don't even know her anymore.
Mass hysteria among the 'Rats-I love it! Let them stay that way.
As for my sister, I don't know that she'll ever be back...


3 posted on 11/16/2004 2:41:37 AM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
If the democrats gave up the queers, they would loose most of their base. The queers would then form a new political party. Both would get destroyed in the next election.

If the dems keep the queers, they will get destroyed in the next election.

Two good choices.

4 posted on 11/16/2004 3:07:02 AM PST by glockmeister40
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Clinton knew that the vast majority of Americans did not support the homosexual agenda.

Perhaps he learned his lesson in 1993 when he tried to shove the "gays in the military" down everyones' throats.

5 posted on 11/16/2004 3:33:58 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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To: AbercrombieChick

Actually, I think it was the Mayor of San Francisco, more than anything, that blew this up in the Dems faces..It was just "too much, waaay to much" for most people. They didn't want this forced upon them..BTW....did you notice in all the incessant media coverage of the gay weddings..they NEVRER showed the happy couple kissing?..


6 posted on 11/16/2004 3:35:22 AM PST by ken5050
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To: mozarky2

A sister is a tough thing to lose, even if she is a liberal.

Maybe try to explain to her that homosexuality is simply not normal. Suppose we took a group of both male and female homosexuals and isolated them on an island of plenty and further suppose they strickly adhered to their homosexual preferences. What happens? The group dies off, that's what. It is NOT BIOLOGICALLY NORMAL for healthy members of ANY SPECIES to behave in such a way that they become extinct. It's not hatred; it's science; it's the facts of life.

We should not make homosexuality illegal because that would be akin to making cancer illegal, but at the same time, government should not reward homosexuality by pretending that it is normal.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 3:38:38 AM PST by libertylover (I love it when liberals are livid.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Perhaps he learned his lesson in 1993 when he tried to shove the "gays in the military" down everyones' throats.

I wouldn't touch a straight line like that for a free weekend at Pismo Beach. I won't...I won't...

8 posted on 11/16/2004 3:40:21 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Their women give good lamentation, maybe we can conquer them again sometime.)
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To: mozarky2
i am up doing an econ paper. a good friend of mine is all into the homosexual agenda too- if she weren't already female, she would run around all day saying "i'm fabulous! you're fabulous! want a blowjob?"

she too, has completely lost it since nov. 3rd, has your sister also talked of blue state secession? just when i didn't think i could upset her more, i told her "yeah, the last time democrats seceded from the union it was because you guys wanted the right to own black people."

9 posted on 11/16/2004 3:53:34 AM PST by AbercrombieChick
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To: mozarky2

Sorry about your sister, that's really sad.


10 posted on 11/16/2004 3:59:37 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: AbercrombieChick

"just when i didn't think i could upset her more, i told her "yeah, the last time democrats seceded from the union it was because you guys wanted the right to own black people.""

Most awesome comeback line of the year!


11 posted on 11/16/2004 4:48:37 AM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: AbercrombieChick
"yeah, the last time democrats seceded from the union it was because you guys wanted the right to own black people."

Oh how cruel. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)

12 posted on 11/16/2004 4:52:12 AM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: ken5050

Smart move on their part. Didn't work, however. Most people know that homosexual partners kiss and do a lot of other things too.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 7:26:42 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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