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a question regarding D-day 6/6/44(vanity)
11/18/04

Posted on 11/18/2004 11:54:01 AM PST by rang1995

Just a question.How many outhere, if we could do it over again, would vote for invading belgium or holland and cutting off france and their vichey govt(like island hopping)instead of losing all those men on D-day 1944-for France??would you?? could we have (tacticly?)given todays feeling re the french and france


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KEYWORDS: dday; france; terror
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1 posted on 11/18/2004 11:54:01 AM PST by rang1995
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To: rang1995

I have a question too.

How many out there would use spellcheck and/or Strunk & White?


2 posted on 11/18/2004 11:54:46 AM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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To: rang1995

We got to vote about D-Day? I must of missed that in history class.


3 posted on 11/18/2004 11:55:53 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I wanna be like Squantos when I grow up.)
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To: RushCrush

*grins*


4 posted on 11/18/2004 11:56:36 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: rang1995; MeekOneGOP
Just a question.How many outhere, if we could do it over again, would vote for invading belgium or holland and cutting off france and their vichey govt(like island hopping)instead of losing all those men on D-day 1944-for France??would you?? could we have (tacticly?)given todays feeling re the french and france

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A moose bit my sister once...


5 posted on 11/18/2004 11:58:01 AM PST by TBarnett34 ("Unnngh!" -John F'n Kerry, 11/2/04)
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To: RushCrush
I have a question too. How many out there would use spellcheck and/or Strunk & White?

And why do people feel the need to be ass%oles for the sake of being ass%oles?

6 posted on 11/18/2004 11:58:40 AM PST by nobody_knows (Mother hold the candle steady while I shave the chicken's lips.)
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To: rang1995

"How many outhere, if we could do it over again, would vote for invading belgium or holland and cutting off france and their vichey govt(like island hopping)instead of losing all those men on D-day 1944-for France??"


While your 'request for vote' has no historical basis, I do understand your question and request that you research Operation Market Garden to see how bloody such an invasion probably would've been.

A large part of the preparation for D-Day was to feign invasions elsewhere, including Belgium and the Netherlands. Actually invading those areas would've been disastrous for the Allies, as the Nazis had defense networks in place for such invasions.


7 posted on 11/18/2004 11:59:03 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: nobody_knows

YOU TALKIN TO ME?


8 posted on 11/18/2004 11:59:10 AM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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To: nobody_knows

I like this line on your page:

"I won't harass you, if you don't harass me. Fair nuff?"


9 posted on 11/18/2004 12:00:11 PM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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To: rang1995

France wasn't the reason for WW II. However, they are the definition of ingratitude.


10 posted on 11/18/2004 12:00:21 PM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Blzbba

I say let's storm the beaches of France again, for old times' sake, and count the milliseconds until they surrender.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 12:00:38 PM PST by TBarnett34 ("Unnngh!" -John F'n Kerry, 11/2/04)
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To: rang1995

Well, considering that my Uncle Richard Hargrove Thoos is still MIA from WWII having been shot down in a B 17 over France, and considering how ungrateful France and Germany are now....... I wonder if he would do it again. Sure he would. But they sure make me ANGRY~

Glenn Beck, God bless him, yesterday was talking about our marine who shot the terrorist the other day. Glenn asked "How many of our soldiers do you think were injured and lay bleeding without any kind of help or care in WWII?" I thought of Richard. It is hard to think of him laying there on the ground, or stuck up in a tree, or whatever happened to him, when his B 17 was shot down. Thank you Glenn Beck for remembering the heroes from WWII.


12 posted on 11/18/2004 12:01:40 PM PST by buffyt (SOB Clinton mocks impeachment blaming Republicans for engaging in politics of personal destruction)
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To: rang1995

No, it was not possible. Not in my estimation. We needed the beaches. Further north in the Netherlands, the coastal areas could all be flooded. The path through Italy had the natural barrier of the Alps. Heavy lift capacity as we have today was non-existent. Uncle Joe was not going to let us use anything in the east.


13 posted on 11/18/2004 12:01:43 PM PST by Petronski (Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
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To: Blzbba

i agree with you ,but my anger at the french today overwhelms me that i sit back and wonder what if.

and so what if i screw up a word i din't use the spell check this time sorry.big deal


14 posted on 11/18/2004 12:02:55 PM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: rang1995

I have replayed the D-Day invasion several times on my Battlefield 1944 PC game and have found much better ways to defeat the Germans. I find the more effective use of Cruise Missles, Apache Helicopters and A-10 Warthogs would have mad a big difference.


Ike was lame.


15 posted on 11/18/2004 12:03:14 PM PST by socal_parrot (Don't follow me, I'm lost!!!)
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To: rang1995

Invading France as a way to get to Germany and ultimately Berlin was a strategic decision. Coming through France allowed us to invade Germany along a broad front, rather than spearhead type invasions, an example of which was Market Garden.


16 posted on 11/18/2004 12:03:18 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: rang1995

But..but...it's so EASY! why not?

I don't get it.


17 posted on 11/18/2004 12:03:48 PM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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To: rang1995
It's not like we did it for them. Kicking German asses often involves fighting in France.
18 posted on 11/18/2004 12:04:25 PM PST by Physicist
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To: An Old Marine

The short answer is that...as bad as the hedgerow country was, the low countries would have been worse.

Remember too that without the French, the victory of our revolution would have been much more difficult. Who cares if Chirac is a Clinton? When I go to France I find good rightwingers.


19 posted on 11/18/2004 12:05:22 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: Blzbba
A large part of the preparation for D-Day was to feign invasions elsewhere, including Belgium and the Netherlands. Actually invading those areas would've been disastrous for the Allies, as the Nazis had defense networks in place for such invasions.

Italy provided bloody proof just how ferociously the Germans could defend those networks.  At the end of the war we were still fighting in northern Italy.

20 posted on 11/18/2004 12:06:19 PM PST by Racehorse
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