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Hey Guys, I got hit with this last night from a lib friend. Any Insight? BTW, the article that has the story is on the Daily K O S.

I was attempting to rebut, however I came off a little harsh. Id like to get some better facts about this bill

Thanks,

Just Dan :-)

1 posted on 01/11/2005 5:19:31 AM PST by Just Dan
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"Delegate John Cosgrove emailed Maura, the author of the original alert: "This bill was requested by the Chesapeake Police Department in its legislative package due to instances of full term babies who were abandoned shortly after birth. These poor children died horrible deaths. ... The requirement for the twelve hour notification timeframe comes from the method that a coroner would use to determine if the child had been born alive or dead. ... My bill in no way intends that a woman who suffers a miscarriage should be charged for not notifying authorities. The bill in no way mentions miscarriages, only deliveries. However, after discussing the bill again with our legislative services lawyers, I have decided to include language that will define the bill to apply only to those babies that are claimed to have been stillborn and that are abandoned as stated above." "

http://www.livejournal.com/users/bentleywg/ Center of page


2 posted on 01/11/2005 5:23:17 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Just Dan
"When your partner comes home, you break the sad news to him."

Partner? Are they at a square dance?

3 posted on 01/11/2005 5:26:26 AM PST by Meldrim
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To: Just Dan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316409/posts


A discussion of this at Free Republic from a few days ago.


We guessed that he had the legal and medical definitions of "fetal death" mixed up.
The post above mine shows that was apparently so.


4 posted on 01/11/2005 5:27:53 AM PST by mrsmith
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A person who would feel the pain of miscarriage tell her husband is trying to die herself. When you feel something like this only a fool would go to sleep on it.

Most women who have babies born stillborn or even at full term without telling anyone are frightened children themselves.They seldom have a partner to tell , they are usually alone and scared to death, or their partner is as young and frightened as they. Chesapeake Va. isnt that large a community that I could imagine they have so many dead babies showing up that they need this law. My guess is they had one case they lost because the coronoer couldnt establish the cause of death.


11 posted on 01/11/2005 5:37:18 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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This is why the whole abortion thing does not belong in the criminal justice system. It is totally unenforceable. Will just put the dims in charge for decades.


12 posted on 01/11/2005 5:38:37 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: Just Dan

What happened to calling your doctor or going to the ER if you believe you are experiencing a miscarriage???


13 posted on 01/11/2005 6:08:58 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: Just Dan
Abortion exists today because of many layers of deception. This article is just another example.

Just a few months ago I read about the abortion promoters trying to get laws changed in some South American country to allow abortion. They were claiming that changing the laws would result in fewer abortions (because supposedly many back-alley ones were occurring).

Other lies:

*A "fetus" is not yet human.

*A "fetus" does not feel pain.

*An unwanted child would be better off dead than born into a world where it is unloved.

*If a child might have serious health problems or handicaps, abortion is more merciful and compassionate.

*The world is in danger of overpopulation.

*Emergency contraception prevents pregnancy and is not abort-efficient. (In fact even birth control pills are abort-efficient - something even pro-life gynecologists are not always aware of.)

The complaints in this article are the typical scaremongering abortionists use to guard their moneymaking, serial-killing industry.
15 posted on 01/11/2005 7:19:17 AM PST by unlearner
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