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Greenland icecap thickens slightly despite warming
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Thu Oct 20, 2005 | Anon

Posted on 10/20/2005 6:25:11 PM PDT by Pharmboy

Greenland's ice-cap has thickened slightly in recent years despite wide predictions of a thaw triggered by global warming, a team of scientists said on Thursday.

The 3,000-meter (9,842-feet) thick ice-cap is a key concern in debates about climate change because a total melt would raise world sea levels by about 7 meters. And a runaway thaw might slow the Gulf Stream that keeps the North Atlantic region warm.

But satellite measurements showed that more snowfall was falling and thickening the ice-cap, especially at high altitudes, according to the report in the journal Science.

Glaciers at sea level have been retreating fast because of a warming climate, making many other scientists believe the entire ice-cap was thinning.

"The overall ice thickness changes are ... approximately plus 5 cms (1.9 inches) a year or 54 cms (21.26 inches) over 11 years," according to the experts at Norwegian, Russian and U.S. institutes led by Ola Johannessen at the Mohn Sverdrup center for Global Ocean Studies and Operational Oceanography in Norway.

However, they said that the thickening seemed consistent with theories of global warming, blamed by most experts on a build-up of heat-trapping gases from (32.00F).

And the scientists said that the thickening of the ice-cap might be offset by a melting of glaciers around the fringes of Greenland. Satellite data was not good enough to measure the melt nearer sea level.

ICE SHEETS

Most models of global warming indicate that the Greenland ice might melt within thousands of years if warming continues.

Oceans would rise by about 70 meters if the far bigger ice-cap on Antarctica melted along with Greenland. Antarctica's vast size acts as a deep freeze likely to slow any melt of the southern continent.

The panel that advises the United Nations has predicted that global sea levels might rise by almost a meter by 2100 because of a warming climate.

Such a rise would swamp low-lying Pacific islands and warming could trigger more hurricanes, droughts, spread deserts and drive thousands of species to extinction.

Still, a separate study in Science on Thursday said sea levels were probably rising slightly because of a melt of ice sheets.

"Ice sheets now appear to be contributing modestly to sea level rise because warming has increased mass loss from coastal areas more than warming has increased mass gain from enhanced snowfall in cold central regions," it said.

"Greenland presently makes the largest contribution to sea level rise," according to the report by scientists led by Richard Alley of Pennsylvania State University in the United States.


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KEYWORDS: glaciers; globalwarming; kyoto; moonbatscience
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To: Dan Evans

tau·tol·o·gy
Pronunciation Key (tô-tl-j)
n. pl. tau·tol·o·gies

1.
1. Needless repetition of the same sense in different words; redundancy.
2. An instance of such repetition.
2. Logic. An empty or vacuous statement composed of simpler statements in a fashion that makes it logically true whether the simpler statements are factually true or false; for example, the statement Either it will rain tomorrow or it will not rain tomorrow.


I love the language used on FR.

Nice use of the word tautology, Dan


41 posted on 10/20/2005 7:51:25 PM PDT by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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To: moog
Either the Liberals/MSM/Enviro MENTAL ist yell " GLOBLE WARMING " or " WE ARE ENTERING A NEW ICE AGE " either way, they got their bases covered.
They don't know what to believe.
As that one photo says that we sometimes see here on FR ....

Ohhhhh ... GEEZZZZZ ... NOT THIS ( $&#^@& ) AGAIN.
42 posted on 10/20/2005 7:58:17 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Pharmboy
Ever wonder why it was named

Greenland

43 posted on 10/20/2005 8:01:41 PM PDT by eldoradude (When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.)
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To: eldoradude

Yes I have.

The name"Greenland" is one of history's great geographical scams, on par with calling the Caribbean the "West Indies." In 982, the good people of Iceland exiled Eric the Red. Eric sailed west towards some mountains visible from the top of Iceland's higher peaks. He found himself on the island now known as Greenland, and when his exile was over, he returned to Iceland to gather a group of settlers.......


So Leif had a mighty hard sales pitch convincing would-be settlers to spend the rest of their life there. He returned to Iceland with exaggerated stories of verdant shores, abundant fish, excellent farmland and an evocative name for this wonderland: Greenland. He rallied a group of settlers, and they ventured off to found a colony that lasted for 300 years— until it was done in by the combined effects of climatic cooling and Europe's bubonic plague.


from /gorp.away.com


44 posted on 10/20/2005 8:07:57 PM PDT by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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To: Pharmboy

Greenland's ice cap is thickening. It's because of millions of fast food outlets...the fumes from the grills get into the atmosphere and gather near the poles, causing the ice cap to suffer from obesity.


45 posted on 10/20/2005 8:08:13 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: eldoradude

Eric the Red called it Greenland as a public relations stunt, hoping to attract settlers. The name Iceland for that island had discouraged settlement.


46 posted on 10/20/2005 8:11:31 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: moog

Some think we're coming out of one. They've got more theories than sense; but, need the best one so it doesn't look bad in light of the Evolution model lol.


47 posted on 10/20/2005 8:14:41 PM PDT by Havoc (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON !!!)
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To: MurryMom
Greenland icecap thickens slightly despite warming

How the heck does that happen?

I'm driving my SUV an extra 10 miles this weekend. Should keep Greenland in a deep freeze - eh?

48 posted on 10/20/2005 8:16:26 PM PDT by Libloather (Geena Davis isn't man enough to play Hillary on TV. Heck, BILL isn't man enough to play Hillary...)
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To: SIDENET

your's is a tired response. Why keep posting the same thing thread after thread?


49 posted on 10/20/2005 8:17:14 PM PDT by ZOTnot ("Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas any more....")
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To: A message
...effects of climatic cooling...

Yes...

Vineyards in England too...

The world was a warmer place a thousand years ago.

Follow the money - who owns most of the UN "carbon credits" and how much are they worth?

one of history's great geographical scams

Global warming is one of history's great sociological scams...

50 posted on 10/20/2005 8:20:17 PM PDT by eldoradude (When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.)
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To: eldoradude
The world was a warmer place a thousand years ago.

Yep, the little known fact about the battle of Hastings was the Norman cavalry in their Hummers. Harold didn't stand a chance.

Global warming is one of history's great sociological scams...

Double ditto there!

51 posted on 10/20/2005 8:25:16 PM PDT by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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To: Pharmboy

Anyone see South Park tonight? It was a take off on Global Warming and the "Day After Tomorrow". I think the episode was called "Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow". People were running panicked in the streets from an attack of Global Warming. They got in a jab at the global-warming-causing-cooling by having three guys venture out in heavy parkas, connected by ropes like they were climbing Mt Everest. When one guy overheated (it was a normal sunny day outside), the other blamed it on "feeling warm is the final stage of hypothermia". I've never watched SP before but this one really had me ROTFLOL.


52 posted on 10/20/2005 8:28:42 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Either the Liberals/MSM/Enviro MENTAL ist yell " GLOBLE WARMING " or " WE ARE ENTERING A NEW ICE AGE " either way, they got their bases covered. They don't know what to believe. As that one photo says that we sometimes see here on FR .... Ohhhhh ... GEEZZZZZ ... NOT THIS ( $&#^@& ) AGAIN.

Actually, it's too much listening to George Noory(sp?) and Art Bell. Dang those shadow people! Hehe.

53 posted on 10/20/2005 9:01:20 PM PDT by moog
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To: Havoc

Some think we're coming out of one. They've got more theories than sense; but, need the best one so it doesn't look bad in light of the Evolution model lol.

Hehe. Weather people are ALWAYS right you know:).


54 posted on 10/20/2005 9:02:38 PM PDT by moog
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To: ZOTnot

Because Bush has a lot of faults. He starts big earthquakes you know.:)


55 posted on 10/20/2005 9:04:23 PM PDT by moog
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To: Pharmboy

bookmark


56 posted on 10/20/2005 9:29:31 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Pharmboy
because a total melt would raise world sea levels by about 7 meters. And a runaway thaw might slow the Gulf Stream that keeps the North Atlantic region warm.

This quote seems to have been overlooked. Its just as good as the "which is consistent with global warming line".

This stuff is pure lunacy.
57 posted on 10/20/2005 10:04:20 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Pharmboy

When people get their heating bills this winter, they'll be wanting more global warming.


58 posted on 10/20/2005 10:21:58 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: ZOTnot

Lighten up, Francis.


59 posted on 10/21/2005 2:27:48 AM PDT by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: kennedy

Yep...I think I've finally got it. Thanks for your most succinct explanation. :)


60 posted on 10/21/2005 3:03:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to.)
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