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Hamas Is Facing a Money Crisis; Aid May Be Cut
New York Times ^ | January 28, 2006 | STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 01/28/2006 6:31:32 AM PST by infocats

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To: kabar
The exact number of parasites is irrelevant.
Dwelling on it is changing the subject.

The subject: Since these useless parasites don't produce anything, how do they continue to exist?
Why should The US, Europe and the rest of the free world continue funding this dysfunctional zoo?

The exact amount of this immense waste of wealth is irrelevant also. The main point is that it is definitely not produced by the idle, useless, worse than animals "palestinians".

Do you think you can focus on that, rather than on minutiae?

101 posted on 01/28/2006 8:28:31 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Lijahsbubbe

"They will get what they want from iran..."

The following is a cut and paste from the CIA world factbook:

"Iran's economy is marked by a bloated, inefficient state sector, over reliance on the oil sector, and statist policies that create major distortions throughout. Most economic activity is controlled by the state."

Their economy is not good with over 12% unemployement and 16% inflation. I'm sure they will continue to help fund hamas, but they don't have unlimited money.

The pali's can't answer one simple question. "What do we do to support ourselves?" Answer. Without foreign gifted money, they will starve. Try eating rpgs and ak-47s.


102 posted on 01/28/2006 8:29:44 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: pepsionice
Just another reason to dump Iran and buy Russian oil.

All oil is fungible. Iran will have no problem selling its oil. China has negotiated some long term contracts and will easily absorb any surplus. FYI: The US purchases no oil from Iran.

103 posted on 01/28/2006 8:31:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Exactly, and they'll have to do it without OUR dime. We don't deal with terrorist organizations.

They will also have as tough a time of it as Fatah. They will be so busy fighting Fatah that they will be unable to furnish anything to the people.

The Palestinian people are going to have to decide to support someone decent. Until that happens, their lives are going to be even more miserable than in the past.

104 posted on 01/28/2006 8:35:18 AM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: kabar
That is the first truly useful post you have provided us, and I, for one, am truly grateful. But you studiously avoided the obvious conclusion:

If 80% of the "palestinians" chose terror democratically, how does that clarify or redefine the canard of "innocent" or "moderate" muslims? (never mind how they mangage to exist or multiply... )

105 posted on 01/28/2006 8:38:56 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Please try to understand why I totally reject your so-called facts. Printing slick, glossy endless "reports" does not make them "facts". If there is an economic perpetual motion machine creating wealth out of nothing for these secondary parasites to exist, I am not aware of what planet it's on.

If you doubt the validity of World Bank reports, which are used by us and many other governments to base aid and other global monetary decisions on, then you are entitled to your uninformed opinion.

Please forgive me, but I do not consider Institut Européen de Recherche sur la Coopération Méditerranéenne et Euro-Arabe avec le soutien de la Commission Européenne, The World Bank , or the United Nations a trustworthy and disinterested source of information.

LOL. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your arrogance. Who made you the arbiter of all that is true and factual?

You wouldn't happen to have any independent, truly disinterested sources of "facts" would you?

Do you?

And I will ask again: Why should Israel collect taxes or duties for the animals trying to kill it?

You will have to ask the Israelis why. I assume it is because they want to control everthing that comes into the country, including screening for contraband, weapons, and explosives.

106 posted on 01/28/2006 8:39:48 AM PST by kabar
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To: Publius6961
The subject: Since these useless parasites don't produce anything, how do they continue to exist? Why should The US, Europe and the rest of the free world continue funding this dysfunctional zoo?

Since you discount the WB report, your question is unanswerable. They do produce items for sale. In fact, if you believe the report, Israel buys some of them.

The exact amount of this immense waste of wealth is irrelevant also. The main point is that it is definitely not produced by the idle, useless, worse than animals "palestinians".

It is easy to demonize over 4 million people. It does nothing to change the reality.

Do you think you can focus on that, rather than on minutiae?

Your approach of spewing vitriol and hate does nothing to solve the problem.

107 posted on 01/28/2006 8:45:55 AM PST by kabar
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To: Publius6961
If 80% of the "palestinians" chose terror democratically, how does that clarify or redefine the canard of "innocent" or "moderate" muslims? (never mind how they mangage to exist or multiply... )

It is not that simple. The vote was a rejection of Fatah and all of the graft and corruption that existed over decades. I see it as less of an endorsement of Hamas than as a desire to throw the old rascals and powerbrokers out. Also, Israel's strident statements against Hamas prior to the election aided Hamas. The Palestinians resented the Israeli attempt to interject itself into their election. It was a way of thumbing their nose at Israel.

Now the Palestinians and Hamas must live with the consequences. It should be interesting once all the posturing from all sides dies down and Hamas must deal with the daily business of running the "country."

108 posted on 01/28/2006 8:52:48 AM PST by kabar
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To: Lijahsbubbe

"Amadnaginidad (sp)
Ahmadeadjihadi."

Armaddenageddon.


109 posted on 01/28/2006 8:55:38 AM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Publius6961

just now , reported by FoxNews ,

... Hamas' Ismael Huneuh [sp?] stated that the US and other countries request,

... that Hamas disarm and change it's charter

... are BLACKMAIL !!! [good response,Mr. Ambassador]

..., so, when might the Al Aqx Martyrs Brigade have a seat on the UN Security Council ??


110 posted on 01/28/2006 9:22:04 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: McGavin999

It will be interesting to see who they appeal to and/or are willing to listen to. In my view, it is a huge achievement to get them out in the harsh light of public scrutiny so everyone can be realistic and see them for what they are and they must take responsibility for their actions. That applies to all of the Islamistists everywhere.


111 posted on 01/28/2006 2:36:31 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: infocats

I really, really hope that I am wrong, but my prediction is that state will funnel money to them anyway.

And RINO's will go along with it, along with most dems.

The only good thing about this is that everyone must take sides.

Powell would fund them. Condi might.


112 posted on 01/28/2006 5:58:03 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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