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Feinstein says job crackdowns 'don't work'
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 03/31/06 | Jerry Kammer

Posted on 03/31/2006 7:53:24 AM PST by RS

"Sen. Dianne Feinstein said yesterday that it would be pointless to couple the legalization of immigrants with a crackdown on U.S. employers who hire unauthorized workers.

“I don't think it makes any sense,” Feinstein said. Federal immigration officials, she noted, have backed off in the past when faced with opposition in communities where work sites are disrupted. "

“What has been shown is that employer sanctions don't work,” Feinstein said.

“You go into a field and you cite an agricultural grower, and the whole community erupts because everybody knows that grower has to harvest his crop or the crops lie dead and dormant,” she said. “So the employer sanctions program has been basically unenforceable.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: border; feinstein; illegals
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To: muawiyah

Call her and complain. Let's jam her switchboard:

202-224-3841


21 posted on 03/31/2006 8:02:15 AM PST by KittyKares
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To: KittyKares
SHE's the one who doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't matter. Her DumRat constituents don't think. They listen and repeat.
22 posted on 03/31/2006 8:02:37 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: RS

Why punish the grower? He has crops to harvest and lazy Americans sitting on the welfare rolls don't have any reason to take the job of helping him do that. So what choice has he got? If he hires Americans for what they want he'll have to charge so much for his product to make a profit that no one will buy the product. He's better off letting it rot.

The only way to cure the illegal invasion of "guest workers" is to end welfare today.

No welfare = No real incentive for illegals to come
No welfare = No jobs for illegals to take
No welfare = A huge drop in obesity
No welfare = A decline medical costs
No welfare = Keeping more of your money at tax time
No we...


23 posted on 03/31/2006 8:03:10 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn.)
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To: Tarpon

"Fining employers thousands of dollars per worker per offense doesn't sound like it would do anything to me. Heck, just add the fines to your product costs."

Sure, just sell your lettuce for $5 more a head then those who didn't get caught .... but oops, forgot, your lettuce is rotting in the field.

( think you forgot the </sarcasm> tag :-)


24 posted on 03/31/2006 8:04:21 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

I think she is make it a closer race to see if she or Barbara Boxer is dumber..


25 posted on 03/31/2006 8:04:56 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: OKIEDOC

"When will voters wise up and quit sending these radical numbskull's to the senate."

She and Boxer are a tag-team, whoever is up for election takes the sanity pills for awhile, and the other can go wacky - next election they switch.


26 posted on 03/31/2006 8:07:00 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

The news has been full of late with the left informing us of what won't work. The trouble is, the things that "won't work" only fail for causes that libs don't want to solve.

I heard a leftist yesterday telling his interviewer that a border fence "won't work" because people who want to come here are going to come anyway. Yet, a "virtual fence" built of electronic gadgets, drones and cameras was fine to have.

So, what does the left want, a fence that will work best of all or a fence that can be gamed in the budget process, a fence that has to be funded every year, so that agents can be shuffled away from enforcement, or never funded at all, a fence that not only cannot be seen, but that might even not really be there?

What does the left really want? It appears, they want to liquidate the United States and have the opportunity to shape a new country though the thongs of ignorant peasants who are flooding through the Arizona, New Mexico and Texan wastelands. The left appears to not have a clue at how special and precious the country we have right now is, even with all its faults. It appears they would rather have a country full of Mexicans than a country full of Americans.

Why else would they not complain about the number of Mexican flags on defiant display in the recent massive rallies and protests about reforming immigration policy and border security?

(You can tell an elitist by how he talks as if he will be part of the ruling clique even after his dream of social transformation come true!)

The flood of illegals must be stopped and quick. We need guest workers, but it may take time for us to even figure out what is the appropriate number. The 12 million illegals that are already here are a different, but related matter.


27 posted on 03/31/2006 8:07:30 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Brad Cloven
When illegals can easily counterfeit documentation proving that they're legal, how can you hold the employer responsible?

There is a lot to that argument. As an employer I can ask for documentation but I cannot pry too much if I find things look fishy. There are some government resources now that I can use but they still seem a little experimental.
28 posted on 03/31/2006 8:09:28 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: RS
"Sen. Dianne Feinstein said yesterday in 1986, there would NEVER NEVER NEVER be another amnesty again.
29 posted on 03/31/2006 8:10:43 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: P-40

All the current proposals involve mandatory checking of documentation against a government database.


30 posted on 03/31/2006 8:11:26 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: EndWelfareToday
Why punish the grower?

The grower has been benefiting all these years from the taxpayers subsidizing the education, housing, and medical bills of the families of the illegals he hires on the cheap.

31 posted on 03/31/2006 8:11:51 AM PST by KittyKares
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To: rolling_stone
I think she is make it a closer race to see if she or Barbara Boxer is dumber..

Sadly, as dumb as she and Boxer are, the California electorate is even dumber.

32 posted on 03/31/2006 8:12:21 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: RS
You beat me to my morning paper.

The story should have read: Feinstein on CRACK says job crackdowns 'don't work'.
33 posted on 03/31/2006 8:15:06 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: rhombus

Read Dr. Sowell's treatise on agriculture and illegals. My big realization came yesterday that the HUGE subsidies we pay to farms is used to pay these illegals so the grower can get more subsidies.


34 posted on 03/31/2006 8:16:07 AM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: RS

"Sen. Dianne Feinstein said yesterday that it would be pointless to couple the War on Drugs with a crackdown on U.S. residents who sell crack cocaine.

“I don't think it makes any sense,” Feinstein said. Federal DEA agents, she noted, have backed off in the past when faced with opposition in communities where crack houses are disrupted. "

“What has been shown is that dealer sanctions don't work,” Feinstein said.

“You go into a crack area and you cite a dealer, and the whole community erupts because everybody knows that the dealer must sell crack or the addicts will lie dead and dormant,” she said. “So the dealer sanctions program has been basically unenforceable.”


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Fixed.


35 posted on 03/31/2006 8:18:22 AM PST by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: RS

She misses the point. If there were a LEGAL GUEST WORKER PROGRAM that allowed these employers to hire LEGAL temporary labor, and the employers knew they would be fined and/or prosecuted if they hire ILLEGAL labor, then the employers will make the obvious correct choice.


36 posted on 03/31/2006 8:19:26 AM PST by free_at_jsl.com
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To: KittyKares

Thank you.
susie


37 posted on 03/31/2006 8:20:27 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: Tarpon

Here's a formula that works:

Take a reasonable estimate of the total number of illegal-hiring employers, divide that by the number who get caught

Multiply it by the difference in a company's costs between hiring an illegal and an American (i.e. half as expensive to hire the illegal, multiply by 2)

Multiply it again by a penalty factor based on the amount the government subsidizes social services for illegals and a crime importation factor

The resulting amount is the proper fine. Then on top of that put the employer in jail for a year *per* illegal employee.


38 posted on 03/31/2006 8:22:09 AM PST by thoughtomator (Since all politicians understand is money, I donate ONLY to those who oppose illegal immigration)
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To: Bikers4Bush

They all get phoney ID cards and Social Security numbers. The Social Security office sometimes doesn't even notify the employer that the SS number is fake for years - and even then they don't say it's fake, they say there is an error with the number, please clarify. Take the letter to the employee, and he'll come back tomorrow with another SS card.


40 posted on 03/31/2006 8:28:53 AM PST by monkeyshine
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