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Senate agrees to sweeping immigration overhaul [deal announced in Spanish on Senate TV]
SF Chronicle ^ | Apr 6 2006

Posted on 04/06/2006 11:35:42 AM PDT by george wythe

The Senate reached an extraordinary and fragile bipartisan agreement today on a sweeping overhaul of U.S. immigration law that would grant a chance to permanent residence for illegal immigrants who have been in the country longer than five years -- an estimated 7 million people.

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President Bush early today signed off on the compromise, as did the Republican and Democratic Senate leaders. It was reached after three days of intense negotiations that came about after the Senate had reached an impasse that threatened to kill any legislation for the year. A key player was Sen. Mel Martinez, a Florida Republican who also announced the agreement in Spanish in the Senate television gallery, a first.

"We've had a huge breakthrough" overnight, said Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn, told reporters today.

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To: BubbaBobTX
WASHINGTON—U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, chairman of the Immigration and Border Security subcommittee, made the following statement Monday regarding his vote against final passage of a committee bill that included amnesty

There is amnesty and then there is amnesty.

Frist opposed the McCain-Kennedy bill because it contained amnesty. After a few cosmetic changes, now Frist endores the bill with the Hagel-Martinez amendment.

In Washington, amnesty is in the sight of the beholder.

101 posted on 04/06/2006 1:16:08 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: BigTex5
Is there a website that shows which Senators voted for it? Today's news

REPUBLICAN OPPONENTS Five Senate Republicans — Sens. John Cornyn of Texas, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Jon Kyl of Arizona and Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, both of Georgia — announced their opposition.

102 posted on 04/06/2006 1:19:11 PM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Undocumented Republican)
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To: Regulator
I like your post so much, I think I'll repeat it. 

Dear Everyone: Remember Forever That This is What the GOP Did With Their Historic Majority in the Congress.

Not the abolition of Abortion.

Not the abolition of the Income Tax.

Not the abolition of the massive Federal agency alphabet soup.

Not the abolition of the Welfare State.

Not the abolition of loopholes an out of control Judiciary exploits.

Not even the abolition of the dominance of far left judges on the Supreme Court...although they might get one more guy on the court.

NOPE. The political capital is all to be spent by handing over the country to....the citizens of Mexico.

Hope the House of Judas is being paid many coins of Silver for this.

Of course, Judas did the right thing after he took the money.

103 posted on 04/06/2006 1:20:50 PM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: MineralMan

Bush, republican senate leaders and RAT senate leaders= axis of assholes. Now we need the supreme court to validate it and get all three branches to screw us.


104 posted on 04/06/2006 1:31:39 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9

"Bush, republican senate leaders and RAT senate leaders= axis of assholes. "

I hate to say it, but all are duly-elected. We put them there. That's how our system works.


105 posted on 04/06/2006 1:33:43 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: ARCADIA
"November no longer matters; this proves that we no longer have a two party system, or a need to listen to the voice of the people. Whom ever gets elected, they will be in the pocket of our masters. Our democratic republic is dead; welcome to the New World Socialist Order."

No big surprise here... Same old RINO crap. Time for a third party. I know many Republican loyalists will continue to vote "the lesser of two evils", but that will only prolong the situation for the US. Time for a gut check boys and girls. It took many years for this country to reach this point, and it will take many years to turn it around. Dump the phony conservative party and start from scratch. It will be painful in the beginning, but it will be worth it in the long run...

106 posted on 04/06/2006 1:43:02 PM PDT by Ex-expromissor (Know Your Enemy)
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To: MineralMan

It's too bad none of the senators will pay the price. Apathy is the detriment of the US political system.


107 posted on 04/06/2006 2:01:03 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: george wythe

I would like to jump into the Spanish translation fray. (Am Spanish tchr at h.s. and jr. college levels)

Sometimes the best translation will use a completely different idiomatic expression in the second language. I would offer up: Agárrese (or Agárrate) los tobillos mientras te la doy otra vez (Grab your ankles while I give "it"--the "la" would be a very crude reference to a certain male organ--to you again).

On the other hand, I couldn't disagree more with the general sentiments expressed by the majority of posters here at FR on this subject. I fear for what will happen to the Republican party at the national level if the Tom Tancredo wing takes over. He will do to the national party what Pete Wilson did to the California pubbies.

Go ahead and flame me if you wish, but I have yet to hear one single responsible suggestion from the other side that deals with the fact that we cannot deport 12 million people. It's not going to happen. Lindsay Graham is right when he says that the status quo is the biggest amnesty program of all, and the House-passed version offers no realistic answer for what we do about those already here.


108 posted on 04/06/2006 2:01:58 PM PDT by bastantebueno55 (Viva Jorge W Arbusto!)
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To: george wythe
The Pres. wants it. The Senate wants it. The House will probably go along. Ain't this something! We bomb the crap out of two countries, send our fighting men and women into to harms way to bring freedom to some God-forsakin part of the world and our representative don't have the balls to protect our country against an invading army of misfits and malcontents.
109 posted on 04/06/2006 2:08:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: sarasota

none...

Bye bye America. I love you.


110 posted on 04/06/2006 2:10:43 PM PDT by immigration lady (Defeat is momentary)
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To: george wythe

Our govt raised the white flag to illegal mexican immigration a decade or more ago. So what's all this fuss about? I am in shock to learn that there are Americans who actually expected our current laws to be enforced and our existing borders to be protected by some new BS law passed by congress? ROFLMAO!

Folks we don't need a new law. We need our current laws regarding immigration to be enforced . And we need them enforced just as aggressive are the laws regarding our having a cold beer while driving are enforced.


111 posted on 04/06/2006 2:11:04 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Sorry Mr. Jefferson, we forfeited the God given rights you all put to pen. We have no excuse.)
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To: BigTex5

Republican Mel Martinez of my state voted for this. I can't bitch him out because I can't speak Spanish!!!

Traitor. MARTINEZ, YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO THIS COUNTRY YOU SCUM BAG! YOU PIECE OF DIRT! YOU'RE GIVING MY COUNTRY AWAY AND I DIDN'T GIVE YOU PERMISSION! YOU DIDN'T ASK ME, YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF LIBERAL REPUBLICAN GARBAGE! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD TRADE OUT YOUR COUNTRY FOR A HISPANIC VOTE! YOU MAKE ME SICK!

*sob* my country is disappearing and I can't stop it! *sob*


112 posted on 04/06/2006 2:16:50 PM PDT by immigration lady (Defeat is momentary)
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To: voreddy

Oh, not to worry about the border, they are going to fly unmanned drones along the border to protect us from further invasion.

No fence, no increase in Border Patrol, no penalities for entering, just an electronic fence will do, don't ya kno.


113 posted on 04/06/2006 2:17:06 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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Note to self. Stupid me, I forgot there is no money to be made catching illegals. Especially like the money that is made when catching some good ole boy who had a couple of cold beers with some friends after work and then dared to drive home. That's a win win for all when they are done raping that good ole boy. But catching an illegal immigrant, who's gonna pay for that?


114 posted on 04/06/2006 2:17:22 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Sorry Mr. Jefferson, we forfeited the God given rights you all put to pen. We have no excuse.)
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To: MineralMan

Mine too. It didn't matter. Martinez just sold us out.


115 posted on 04/06/2006 2:18:43 PM PDT by immigration lady (Defeat is momentary)
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To: Jarhead1957

Only 5 out of how many? Man this makes me mad!!!


116 posted on 04/06/2006 2:22:01 PM PDT by BigTex5
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To: MineralMan
"Exactly what paperwork does an illegal have to document how long s/he's been here?"

Probably a note from any one of 15 - 20 roommates s/he is sharing a house with, will do ;-)

117 posted on 04/06/2006 2:25:46 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: george wythe

118 posted on 04/06/2006 2:40:53 PM PDT by Gritty (Granting citizenship to people here illegally is not just amnesty, it's anarchy– Gov. Schwarzenneger)
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To: hispanichoosier
"We've been making inroads into their community and can't stop now."

The problem is that for every Hispanic vote the GOP picks up, they will lose one or two votes from their base.

I have NEVER voted anything but GOP.

That is over. I don't care what their platform states: It's a damn lie and the spineless SOB's don't have the balls to do what they KNOW is right.

I'm beyond disgusted. I used to be politically apathetic and never voted prior to Reagan because I believed all politicians were liars and only interested in their own careers.

As of today, I am once again convinced of this.
119 posted on 04/06/2006 2:54:38 PM PDT by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: sarasota
"Exactly what paperwork does an illegal have to document how long s/he's been here?"

This is not an idea. The last time we offered "amnesty" to illegals, back in the late 1980s, it was based on a time of residence in the USA. And up blossomed, immediately, an underground market in bogus "evidence" of residency.

It included mail to an addressee, electricity bills to a certain name at an American address, etc. The counterfeiters learned how to falsify postage stamps and all the rest. It really was a joke.

You never hear WHY we Republicans are so opposed to amnesty. It's because those of us that lived in California, especially the LA area, saw the degradation and despoilation of the metro area in front of our very eyes. Mexicans who poured across the border after amnesty became law, and became instant citizens if they could afford the bogus "evidence" of residency.

Outside of the tourist areas, LA looks like a cross between Tijuana and Mexico City. Brought to you by lax enforcement of immigration laws and easily duped amnesty provisions.

120 posted on 04/06/2006 3:28:05 PM PDT by tom h
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