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Daily life of the Multinational Division Center - South in Iraq (pictures).
Foto PAP

Posted on 04/16/2006 4:06:00 PM PDT by lizol

Polish military hospital in Karbala - Camp Lima



Polish and U.S. sappers in action (in Afak)



Greetings from Polish kids



Polish mountain troops wearing ceremonial uniform - definitely too hot for that weather :-)))



"New kids in the block" (new shift coming to Divanyiah)



Polish soldiers arresting suspect terrorists.



Polish sappers in action



Camp Echo - party time



Slovak sappers in action



Poles on duty



Polish assault helicopter squad



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coalition; gwot; iraq; oif; photos; poland; polishtroops; slovakia; waronterror; wot

1 posted on 04/16/2006 4:06:02 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Are those Hind choppers and AK-101 assault rifles???


2 posted on 04/16/2006 4:07:54 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: lizol

Nice collection of pics, thanks for posting.


3 posted on 04/16/2006 4:09:52 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Thunder90
Those are Hind (Mi-24) indeed.

But the rifles are Polish made Beryls - based on Kalashnikov, but improved and adopted to NATO standards.
4 posted on 04/16/2006 4:12:42 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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5 posted on 04/16/2006 4:15:02 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

Then, the AK-101 is a knock-off of the Beryl.


6 posted on 04/16/2006 4:16:42 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Poland should sell off its remaining Hinds to the US and get Apache and blackhawk gunships. Getting rid of everything from the Soviet era is a good idea, including AK designs.


7 posted on 04/16/2006 4:17:43 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Everything takes time. And money :-)


8 posted on 04/16/2006 4:22:21 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

I view Hinds (as well as AH-60) as a valuable vehicle against war on terror. It allows to carry troops, and provide close air support after the troops are deployed from ground, good for tactical surprise attack on buildings where armed terrorists may be hiding. It's worth something to have.


9 posted on 04/16/2006 4:23:02 PM PDT by Wiz
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Wow, haven't seen Hind-D's in a while. They're a flying tank.


10 posted on 04/16/2006 4:27:36 PM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads. Taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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To: Wiz

Black hawks can do that alot better. Hinds are good for flat areas, but are almost useless in forested and mountianius regions. Just ask the Russians. They lost hundreds of Hinds in Chechnya and Afghanistan (the ones in Chechnya were upgraded with advanced technology and hardware). We lost only a few Blackhawks in Afghanistan, mostly from mechanical failure.


11 posted on 04/16/2006 4:28:31 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Russia/CIS still have thousands in their inventories, and continue to build them. In Russia/CIS, they are supported by Kamov and Havoc attack helos.

The Russians recently sold 10 Mi-35 Hinds to Venezuela.


12 posted on 04/16/2006 4:31:09 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Besides - Beryls are rifles for regular Polish troops.

Special forces use different weapons, as you can see on these pictures (GROM operators).


13 posted on 04/16/2006 4:39:16 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

Poland should upgrade to these weapons for their entire military.


14 posted on 04/16/2006 5:05:39 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Beryl, especially a new wz.2004 version is a very good weapon and It's cheaper than western and produced by our own industry.
Generally Russian weapons are not bad, the only problem is that... they are Russian.
15 posted on 04/17/2006 4:36:50 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Thunder90

Nope mate. The Beryl 5.56mm Assaul Rifle has proven it's a good design, based on the 5.45mm AK-74/Tantal but using modern materials (polymers). The 2004 model uses EOTech holosight and new magazines, also a telescopic butt. I've spoken with soldiers from Iraq and what they mentioned is that US soldiers have lots of problems running M-16s/M4s properly in sandy area whereas AK based designs simply work.


16 posted on 04/17/2006 2:10:53 PM PDT by SpikeMike (Even a stopped clock, gives the right time, twice a day....)
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To: lizol

Wonderful photos -- thanks for the ping.


17 posted on 04/17/2006 5:12:28 PM PDT by 68skylark
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