Enjoy your stay.
Posted on 05/03/2006 10:24:12 PM PDT by WinteryDays
Heehehe! Morning all : )
The Moussaoui verdict was a difficult one. If sentenced to death, he thought he'd be a martyr. Now he thinks he won something and we lost? From what I've seen on this thread describing living conditions for the rest of his life, he's going to lose what's left of his mind. If his cohorts threaten kidnappings, we should threaten to feed this piece of inhuman garbage...PORK! Chittlins', hog maws, crappy hot dogs. No sirloin pork chops for him!
Hoot hoot, lol!
Do they get mail or visitors? No one has been able to tell me that so far!
Don't be sorry. Most of us feel the same way. Imo, the jury was afraid to impose the death sentence, because they felt he wanted it to achieve martyr status. They didn't want to give that to him. Make sense? Dealing with people stuck in a prehistoric age is just a pain in the ass.
It's a hard question to answer if you never murdered anybody.
We should have public hangings in Central Park. My Irish-born grandfather advocated this when he ran for state assembly in the Bronx.
"Probably more so because the appeal after appeal"
If he appeals his sentence, that would contradict the theory that he wants to be a martyr.
"FDR had all six of them taken out and shot."
He actually had them fried.
The title of this thread does not go to an article with the same title. This is highly misleading, because the title of the thread implies that the article explains what Moussaoui will experience in prison. In fact, the article is merely a recap of what happened yesterday.
No. It would make him dead. Period. Dead. A condition in which he could no longer participate in jihad (which he can do from prison through letters).
There's a fairly decent desription of the facility here:
http://www.answers.com/topic/adx-florence
Have to disagree with you here. MOOS-owie will be the cause celebre for the liberalest liberals. Articles will be written and protests will commence each and every time he doesn't like what is being served for lunch that day or if the guards fail to bow to his copy of the wKORan. Endless streams of American communists will be lamenting his "plight" and cast doubt on whether or not 9-11 even happened. Alas, it will give them another chance to intimate that the Israilis or the U.S. government was behind the whole thing and that the "little eichmans deserved it", as Ward Churchill-The-Fake-Native-American said. They should have killed the pondscum.
I do not believe that he is allowed access to anyone on the outside (for that matter he barely sees anyone on the inside), no papers, tv, phonecalls. Nothing.
Yeah...and a decent description of how "human rights" activists agitate for more "humane" treatment of prisoners in such facilities. Gag!
Yeah, I guess I should have put a warning on the link. When I searched for information on it I found others that would make you hurl from reading the activist crap.
Doesn't matter what you believe. The facts are that they do have TV's in their cells. They can write and receive letters. In time, they can receive visitors -- lawyers, for example. They have a constitutional right to see their lawyers. They get their Koran, their religious services, food that meets their cultural needs, etc.
It would be a tough life for someone with a gregarious personality. However, for someone who doesn't mind solitude, it's not a bad life. You have no responsibilities. No bills. No taxes. All your basic needs are provided. For people willing to live in mountain caves, it's probably something close to luxury.
Mind you, that I am very much pro death penalty. But what kind of penalty is that being put to sleep like a vet puts a pet to sleep when there is no hope any more. Being forced to stare at four walls 7/23/365 for the rest of his life is much more punishment.
"The facts are that they do have TV's in their cells. "
A 12- inch black-and-white TV in each cell shows closed-circuit classes in psychology, education, anger management, parenting and literacy. Religious services of numerous denominations are piped in from a small chapel, where prison officials display for the videocamera the religious objects appropriate for a given faith.
Well, yes, physically it is a TV but it's not like he will be watching the Jihadi Shopping Network.
Sure they access to their lawyers. I don't think he will get many of those visits though. Quoted from a Fox article, When asked in his interview with FOX News when he'd last spoken to Moussaoui, MacMahon replied: "I haven’t spoken to Mr. Moussaoui for a long time, and that's just fine with me."
"They can write and receive letters."
And I should hope that they are being screened closely over the last fiasco.
All this mess is why he should have been tried in front of a military tribunal instead of our legal system. As Kaslin said in an early post, to just put him to sleep like a vet is not punishment and would have given him what he wanted. Unless we were going to cut his head off and stuff him with pig sh*t, I suspect this will become his hell on Earth.
"You have no responsibilities. No bills. No taxes. All your basic needs are provided. For people willing to live in mountain caves, it's probably something close to luxury."
That is so weak. We're not talking about your average gang-banger here.
Simply because MacMahon claimed he didn't speak to Moussaoui for a long time and wouldn't care if he never did again: (1) doesn't make it true, and (2) doesn't mean some Islamic lawyer won't take the case for appeals, complaints, etc.
Even if there are no messages embedded in his letters, the letters, themselves, become tools for jihadist recruitment. That happened leading up to the Spanish train bombings.
I agree these people should be tried before military tribunals. However, we are such a weak, confused society that military tribunals will never happen unless the Supreme Court finally rules they are OK. Even then, they probably won't happen under most of the presidential wannbes floating around these days.
It is not weak to observe that all of Moussaoui's basic needs are met in prison. It is truth. Many, if not most of these jihadists are used to a spartan, monk-like life to begin with. They are accustomed to spending long hours in prayer. Without responsibilities to provide even for his basic necessities, someone who doesn't mind a life of solitude and prayer would probably find life in that prison quite bearable.
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