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1 posted on 09/11/2006 8:21:02 PM PDT by blam
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GGG Ping?


2 posted on 09/11/2006 8:21:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I've asked to be cremated. But if this is cheaper . . . . .


3 posted on 09/11/2006 8:25:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I get homesick when I look up in the skies and see my home planet.)
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To: blam
Put them towers in, Arkansas. Of course every vulture is needed to clean the highways.
4 posted on 09/11/2006 8:37:19 PM PDT by the_daug
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"The pictures show piles of rotting corpses, some with the eyes gouged out by crows and other scavengers. "

i assume eyes are among the first things eaten by scavengers, including vultures, so at least the job is getting partly done.


6 posted on 09/11/2006 8:39:13 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: blam

Perhaps they should look to new scavengers? Introduce something else into the towers.

Maybe Hyenas.


8 posted on 09/11/2006 8:43:25 PM PDT by Dreagon
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They're short of vultures? Send 1/10 of our lawyers over there - that should take care of it. (Heck - send them all).


9 posted on 09/11/2006 8:43:27 PM PDT by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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Haven't these folks ever heard of how to use lime?


10 posted on 09/11/2006 8:44:58 PM PDT by 308MBR (Milkin' and a churnin', pickin' cotton, raising "heck" and balin' hay!)
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To: blam

we have plenty of vultures in Cooke Co.


12 posted on 09/11/2006 8:57:47 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: blam
Very interesting. This reminded me of something I was reading just the other day on Tibetan Buddhism:

Stupa burial and cremation are reserved for high lamas who are being honored in death. Sky burial is the usual means for disposing of the corpses of commoners. Sky burial is not considered suitable for children who are less than 18, pregnant women, or those who have died of infectious disease or accident. The origin of sky burial remains largely hidden in Tibetan mystery.

Sky burial is a ritual that has great religious meaning. Tibetans are encouraged to witness this ritual, to confront death openly and to feel the impermanence of life. Tibetans believe that the corpse is nothing more than an empty vessel. The spirit, or the soul, of the deceased has exited the body to be reincarnated into another circle of life. It is believed that the Drigung Kagyu order of Tibetan Buddhism established the tradition in this land of snow, although there are other versions of its origin.

The corpse is offered to the vultures. It is believed that the vultures are Dakinis. Dakinis are the Tibetan equivalent of angels. In Tibetan, Dakini means "sky dancer". Dakinis will take the soul into the heavens, which is understood to be a windy place where souls await reincarnation into their next lives. This donation of human flesh to the vultures is considered virtuous because it saves the lives of small animals that the vultures might otherwise capture for food. Sakyamuni, one of the Buddhas, demonstrated this virtue. To save a pigeon, he once fed a hawk with his own flesh.

After death, the deceased will be left untouched for three days. Monks will chant around the corpse. Before the day of sky burial, the corpse will be cleaned and wrapped in white cloth. The corpse will be positioned in a fetal position, the same position in which the person had been born. The ritual of sky burial usually begins before dawn. Lamas lead a ritual procession to the charnel ground, chanting to guide the soul. There are few charnel grounds in Tibet. They are usually located near monasteries. Few people would visit charnel grounds except to witness sky burials. Few would want to visit these places.

After the chanting, the body breakers prepare the body for consumption by the vultures. The body is unwrapped and the first cut is made on the back. Hatchets and cleavers are used to quickly cut the body up, in a definite and precise way. Flesh is cut into chunks of meat. The internal organs are cut into pieces. Bones are smashed into splinters and then mixed with tsampa, roasted barley flour.

As the body breakers begin, juniper incense is burned to summon the vultures for their tasks, to eat breakfast and to be Dakinis. During the process of breaking up the body, those ugly and enormous birds circle overhead, awaiting their feast. They are waved away by the funeral party, usually consisting of the friends of the deceased, until the body breakers have completed their task. After the body has been totally separated, the pulverized bone mixture is scattered on the ground. The birds land and hop about, grabbing for food. To assure ascent of the soul, the entire body of the deceased should be eaten. After the bone mixture, the organs are served next, and then the flesh.

This mystical tradition arouses curiosity among those who are not Tibetan. However, Tibetans strongly object to visits by the merely curious. Only the funeral party will be present at the ritual. Photography is strictly forbidden. Tibetans believe that photographing the ritual might negatively affect the ascent of the soul.

You have to wonder about the connection and communication. This was found at this web site

13 posted on 09/11/2006 9:09:01 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: blam

Gators will do it!


14 posted on 09/11/2006 9:20:18 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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At least the bodies in the towers are out of sight. The bodies washed up on the riverbank behind the Taj Mahal are in plain sight.


20 posted on 09/11/2006 10:44:13 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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I can think of some people that would gag a vulture, can't you? (But please, no Helen Thomas pictures!)


23 posted on 09/12/2006 11:26:07 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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Thanks Blam. I've got some late 1990s stuff on the hard drive about the declining vulture population at this site, and how it was worrying Zoroastrians because (due to a demographic bulge) so many are on the verge of dying of old age.

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25 posted on 09/13/2006 10:34:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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From the January 2002 Fortean Times:
Dead Parsees are carried on a simple bier to a ceremonial gate into the private jungle park of banyan and casarina trees in the city's posh Malabar Hill district, wich surrounds the five Towers of Silence... However, with an average of three Parsees dying every day, the six-odd vultures at the towers are overfed and unable to cope, although kites and other birds help out.

26 posted on 09/13/2006 10:39:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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They could import vultures, that would solve the problem, maybe.


34 posted on 09/13/2006 3:05:46 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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