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Neanderthals' 'last rock refuge' (survived much longer than previously thought)
BBC ^ | 9/13/06 | BBC

Posted on 09/13/2006 12:25:14 PM PDT by Mark Felton

Our evolutionary cousin the Neanderthal may have survived in Europe much longer than previously thought.

A study in Nature magazine suggests the species may have lived in Gorham's Cave on Gibraltar up to 24,000 years ago.

The Neanderthal people were believed to have died out about 35,000 years ago, at a time when modern humans were advancing across the continent.

The new evidence suggests they held on in Europe's deep south long after the arrival of Homo sapiens.

The research team believes the Gibraltar Neanderthals may even have been the very last of their kind.

"It shows conclusively that Gorham's Cave today was the last place on the planet where we know Neanderthals lived," said lead author Professor Clive Finlayson, director of heritage at the Gibraltar Museum.

Tool technology

Though once thought to have been our ancestors, the Neanderthals are now considered an evolutionary dead end.

They appear in the fossil record around 230,000 years ago and, at their peak, these squat, physically powerful hunters dominated a wide range, spanning Britain and Iberia in the west to Israel in the south and Uzbekistan in the east.

Our own species, Homo sapiens, evolved in Africa, and displaced the Neanderthals after entering Europe about 40,000 years ago.

Gorham's Cave (Gibraltar Museum) The cave has given up a range of Neanderthal artefacts (Image: Gibraltar Museum) Researchers from Britain, Gibraltar, Spain and Japan obtained radiocarbon dates on charcoal from ancient hearths unearthed deep inside Gorham's Cave on Gibraltar, a mountainous peninsula on the southern tip of Iberia.

The charcoal comes from ground layers in the cave where archaeologists previously dug up stone tools of a type made exclusively by Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis).

The earliest samples of charcoal date to 33,000 years ago, while the youngest date to 24,000 years ago - much more recent than anyone could have imagined.

But evidence for a presence 24,000 years ago is limited, so the researchers can only say with confidence that Neanderthals were in the cave until 28,000 years ago.

Rich resources

Even so, this date makes the cave the youngest Neanderthal occupation site known anywhere.

Scientists believe it was a favoured spot where hunting groups sought refuge from cold weather during the last Ice Age.

The rock shelter is well ventilated and relatively well illuminated; a high, vaulted roof meant smoke from the Neanderthals' fires would have risen away from the cave floor, instead of lingering at ground level and choking the occupants.

How Gibraltar might have looked in Neanderthal times

More details And because sea levels were lower at this time, Gibraltar was surrounded by a coastal plain, rather than water. Covered by marshes in some places and in others by sand dunes, the plains were a habitat for a rich array of animals.

Professor Chris Stringer, from London's Natural History Museum, said the rock would have made for a good vantage point for Neanderthal hunters: "Excellent if you're trying to map your resources and decide where your next meal is coming from," he said.

"On top of the rock, there might have been things like ibex; out on the plains there would be deer, possibly horses and rabbits. We know they were eating shellfish and even tortoises - the poor things were probably being baked in their shells."

Dramatic switch

Professor Stringer thinks the site provides an important insight into the reasons for Neanderthal extinction.

"For years, many of us have tended to look for one single reason why Neanderthals died out - that we interbred with them, or out-competed them, or killed them off. The Gibraltar evidence fits into a picture that has been emerging in recent years of quite a complex event," he explained.

"The idea of modern humans coming in and Neanderthals dying out simply didn't happen."

One view of Neanderthal extinction has them rapidly vanishing as modern humans swept across Europe. Modern man is a suspect, but the new evidence supports an important role for climate change.

Televisual representation of a Neanderthal (BBC) In the end, rapid climate change may have doomed the species The Neanderthals survived in local pockets during previous Ice Ages, bouncing back when conditions improved. But the last one appears to have been characterised by several rapid and severe changes in climate which hit a peak 30,000 years ago.

These were probably more dramatic in more northerly parts of Europe, where they may have upset the balance between Neanderthals and modern humans, allowing moderns to gain the upper hand.

Gibraltar's climate was sheltered from many of these changes, but it did eventually deteriorate. Recent deep-sea core data show that temperatures dropped sharply around 24,000 years ago. This could have created drought-like conditions in the area which may also have reduced the number of prey the Neanderthals could catch.

"If you've got a shrinking Neanderthal population on the edge, it might just be enough to tip them over the edge," Professor Finlayson told BBC News.

Details of the work will be presented here at the Calpe conference, which runs from 14-17 September in Gibraltar.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crevolist; godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neanderthal
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1 posted on 09/13/2006 12:25:15 PM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlRXQEA0yj0


2 posted on 09/13/2006 12:26:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek

HA! I was just looking at some Big Chuck & Lil John clips earlier today on youtube posted by that same guy.

I'd never seen that one.


3 posted on 09/13/2006 12:28:25 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Mark Felton
They're still here:


4 posted on 09/13/2006 12:28:30 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: Mark Felton

no, they are still here today....most of them post regularly at DU and KOS.


5 posted on 09/13/2006 12:29:04 PM PDT by standingfirm
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To: Mark Felton
Is there any evidence they interbred with other humanoids?
6 posted on 09/13/2006 12:29:53 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: standingfirm
"no, they are still here today....most of them post regularly at DU and KOS."

No, they died out.

Their last message, scrawled in their dingy cave...

"Bush's fault!"
7 posted on 09/13/2006 12:30:49 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: weegee

I remember that song from way back when I was a kid in the time of troglodytes.


8 posted on 09/13/2006 12:30:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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Nephilim of Genesis 6:4


9 posted on 09/13/2006 12:31:01 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: wolfcreek

I'm tempted to say ;jihadists"..


10 posted on 09/13/2006 12:31:13 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: cripplecreek
...And because sea levels were lower at this time, Gibraltar was surrounded by a coastal plain, rather than water.

So, Neanderthals' campfires caused Global Warming?...........

11 posted on 09/13/2006 12:31:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: wolfcreek
Is there any evidence they interbred with other humanoids?

Yes, I believe there is substantial evidence to support that.......

12 posted on 09/13/2006 12:33:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: wolfcreek
Is there any evidence they interbred with other humanoids? Sure is..... my ex-wife people were Neanderthals
13 posted on 09/13/2006 12:38:32 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Mark Felton

I believe there are some that post on here and on other sites too!


14 posted on 09/13/2006 12:39:27 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (How to win over terrorist? KILL them with UNKINDNESS.)
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To: wolfcreek
"Is there any evidence they interbred with other humanoids?"

No, but there is evidence they bred with pigs ....


15 posted on 09/13/2006 12:41:06 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: cripplecreek
I remember that song from way back when I was a kid in the time of troglodytes.

"Gotta find a woman
Gotta find a woman
Gotta find a woman
Gotta find a woman"

16 posted on 09/13/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

...women, children, and Neanderthals hardest hit.


17 posted on 09/13/2006 12:42:59 PM PDT by Tallguy (The problem with this war is the name... You don't wage war against a tactic.)
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To: Mark Felton
quite a complex event

Occam's razor: when multiple competing theories have equal predictive powers, the principle recommends selecting those that introduce the fewest assumptions and postulate the fewest hypothetical entities.

In other words it is far more likely that we killed them off than they forgot how to wear clothes or eat from global warming. Humanoids can live anywhere on Earth and eat just about anything. They are not as likely to die out like non-tool-making non-plan-making animals.

Modern anthropologists have the bad habit of projecting their own personal belief system onto ancient people. They want to make believe that humans are naturally benign peace loving leftist hippies. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

18 posted on 09/13/2006 12:44:37 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Mark Felton

Aw shucks forget about some cave in Gibraltar--they never bothered searching the halls of Congress.


19 posted on 09/13/2006 12:46:21 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (Ya can take da kid outta Brooklyn--butchya can't take Brooklyn outta da kid)
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To: mathprof
Yup...


20 posted on 09/13/2006 12:53:26 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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