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He's Got Guts: In praise of Chuck Hagel. (Peggy Noonan finally jumps the shark!)
The Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | January 26, 2007 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/25/2007 9:14:42 PM PST by quidnunc

We all complain, and with justice, about the falseness of much that is said in Washington, and the cowardice that leaves a great deal unsaid. But I found myself impressed and grateful for the words of Chuck Hagel, the Republican senator from Nebraska, in a meeting of the Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday. Because his message was not one Republicans or Democrats would find congenial, it may be accidentally dropped down the memory hole, so I'll quote at some length.

The committee was nearing a vote on what was, essentially, an announcement of no confidence in the administration's leadership in Iraq. Specifically it was a nonbinding resolution opposing the increase in troops the president has requested. This was not significant in a concrete way: The president has the power to send more troops, and they are already arriving. But as symbols go, it packed a punch. You couldn't watch it on television or on the Internet and not see that Mr. Hagel was letting it rip. He did not speak from notes or a text but while looking at his fellow senators. There seemed no time lag between thought and word. He was barreling, he was giving it to you straight, and he'd pick up the pieces later.

This is what he said: Congress has duties; in the case of the war, meeting those duties was not convenient; Congress did not meet them.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: chuckhagel; hagel; noonan; peggynoonan
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To: billbears
Good on Chuck Hagel for standing up for what he believes

???? How is Chuck standing up for what he believes? He's stating what he believes, but he's not standing up for it. This is a non-binding resolution. It's just a lot of hot air which accomplishes nothing. The White House should've challenged Chuck and the boys and told them to try and make it a binding resolution. Fish or cut bait.

If the surge works then Hagel will claim credit for "putting the President's feet to the fire". If it fails, he'll say "I told you so." The position is win/win for him. He risks nothing.

Standing up for what he believes? Don't think so.

41 posted on 01/25/2007 9:55:43 PM PST by PackerBronco
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To: DCPatriot

Every last word, chuck.


42 posted on 01/25/2007 9:55:56 PM PST by pissant
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To: quidnunc

The Armed Forces Committee endorsed General Petraeus 25-0. Then, backstabber Hagel undercuts the General's plan!

During WWII, A certain German Corporal though he knew more than his Generals. Now we have a German Sergeant that thinks he knows more than the commanding General!

Who do you support? General Petraeus or Senator Betraytus?


43 posted on 01/25/2007 9:56:01 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Ahtisaari, give Sápmi it's independence! Free the Sami!!!)
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To: woofie
Are you sure? Most of those wanting to cut and run don't recognize it as cutting and running. Maybe it's under a different name like redeploy or something. LOL
44 posted on 01/25/2007 9:57:57 PM PST by fish hawk (cl)
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To: billbears

Do you think Pelosi and Reid are going to do better protecting you and yours from another devastating attack like what happened on 9/11 but worse? Do you think we can just circle the wagons and the terrorists are not going to come here again? We were not in Afghanistan or Iraq when 9/11 happened, so if you think they will not come here again, you are dead wrong.


45 posted on 01/25/2007 10:00:15 PM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: quidnunc

She jumped the shark the day President Bush was inaugurated a second term.


46 posted on 01/25/2007 10:01:35 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: quidnunc

If nothing else, this war as really separated the wheat from the tares.


47 posted on 01/25/2007 10:02:14 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
If nothing else, this war as really separated the wheat from the tares.

Hagel has always been a gutless poltician. This war didn't change his mind overnight.

48 posted on 01/25/2007 10:04:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: quidnunc
It makes me sick that I'm from the same state as him...seriously.

He makes me want to stick my finger directly into my eye...and swirl it around.

Buhuhuh.
49 posted on 01/25/2007 10:05:09 PM PST by SomethingTopher
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To: DCPatriot
This is what Senators are supposed to be. This is what Senators are supposed to do. I don't agree with Mr. Hagel but where are the Senators rising in opposition and debating at the same level, with the same passion and clarity?

Where are the old bulls who can speak on the Senate floor and have it reverberate across the country? Where are the Henry Clays and the John Calhouns? If the President's policies are right for the country there should be at least one Senator who can defend him in terms that the people can understand and rally around. We have a bunch of clerks and lawyers.

50 posted on 01/25/2007 10:06:50 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: quidnunc; All
Are we talking about the same Senator Hagel that joined with a fellow RINO Olympia Snow to vote with Democrats because they were to stupid and lazy to look at the 40,000 documents translated from the Docex project.

Despite the clear evidence showing Saddams connections to terrorism they would rather help the Democrats show an investment of failure in Iraq by going into the Senate Select intelligence hearings with preconceived notions of why we didn't belong in Iraq.

Someone needs to hold this A-holes feet to the fire if he wants to help the Democrats showcase their disdain for our President and our troops mission.


51 posted on 01/25/2007 10:07:00 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: pissant
Perhaps my reading comprehension is suffering, but to me she's merely saying that it's about time a dialogue is started in earnest by our elected Senators.

She's pointing out that having them vote and put their records on the line is past due.

You have to forget her admiration for Hagel...who's considered a turncoat in here. But alas...this thread shouldn't be about Hagel.

It's about Noonan's giving to us straight.

52 posted on 01/25/2007 10:08:36 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Yes you are right. In this case, I was actually talking about Noonan. I used to like her. Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

Hagel...eh. No surprise there. Sometimes he and Kerry just kind of meld into one big spineless, boring suit of nothingness for me. I hear their names and I hear "blah, blah, blah, blah" in my head. Like the grown ups in Charlie Brown specials.
53 posted on 01/25/2007 10:10:44 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: quidnunc
This just makes me laugh. Peggy has been in search of a new muse for some time now. I guess she found someone befitting of the dourness she has become...Chuck Hagel.
54 posted on 01/25/2007 10:10:47 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: MARTIAL MONK
And that is my point.

I think it's a fabulous assessment by Noonan.

Thanks of replying. Hard to find a your intellect among the usual suspects.

55 posted on 01/25/2007 10:10:50 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
I personally think once Noonan was turned down by GW to be a speech writer, she became enraged with hatred for him, just like the BDS dummies. She literally is no different than them now because she NEVER says anything positive about GW. She acts like she has a vendetta.

Her time has passed and she is a bitter woman that thinks she is more intelligent than everyone else and wants to tell us how to think. There is no difference there in mentality than how the leaders of the democratic party treat those of us with a different vision.
56 posted on 01/25/2007 10:15:52 PM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: DCPatriot

These people have debated the war since it started (poorly no doubt) ....but I think its silly to now debate military tactics (surge..no surge)What the hell do they know?

One of the lesson of Vietnam was we should let the military run the war
policians should not micro manage


57 posted on 01/25/2007 10:18:44 PM PST by woofie
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To: pissant
A bit more than "several", imho.

Pity. She used to have some piercing insights.

58 posted on 01/25/2007 10:19:59 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: jrooney
Yeah...but that's what column writers are supposed to do.

Spark debate.

Look, I support the President 110%. But, the Administration's prosecution of the war evolved into seeing our soldiers becoming policemen while trying to avoid being victims. After 4 years...that's unacceptable.

Or should be.

I don't know...that's why I'm here.

59 posted on 01/25/2007 10:20:42 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Clay was a demagogue and Calhoun a blow-hard and racist. The Senate has always been a pretty worthless group, and it has gone downhill since the 17th amendment.
60 posted on 01/25/2007 10:22:55 PM PST by stop_fascism
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