Posted on 01/29/2007 4:13:17 PM PST by blam
Also, remember that the Hobbit survived the near-by super-volcano Toba 75,000 years ago, when as few a 2,000 and only as many as 10,000 humans worldwide survived that event.
GGG Ping.
Hobbits are even alive today. Look at Julia Louis-Dreyfus who played Elaine on Seinfeld. She`s 5'2' tall and wears a size 8 1/2 size shoe. Excuse me, but small stature + huge feet = Hobbit, thank you very much.
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By Leigh Dayton
January 30, 2007 06:30am
THE chance discovery of an enormous chamber beneath the Indonesian cave where hobbit-like creatures were discovered promises to settle the debate about who - or what - the tiny creatures were.
Scientists are confident the mystery will be solved if they can extract DNA from hobbit remains they expect to find among the rubble of 32,000- to 80,000-year-old bones and stone tools littering the cavern floor.
"Well, well, well, well, well; this will settle the matter," said Colin Groves, a physical anthropologist at the Australian National University in Canberra.
He said obtaining a CSI-style DNA-profile of the 1m-tall creatures - named Homo floresiensis - would prove conclusively if they were members of a new human species, as their discoverers claimed, or deformed modern people, as alleged by sceptics.
The original hobbit remains, found four years ago, have so far failed to yield any DNA.
The Australian learned of the new chamber and its DNA potential yesterday, just as international scientists reported in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science that they had compared a series of normal and abnormal human skulls with that of the hobbit and found that the hobbit was not an abnormal modern human.
The unexpected discovery of a chamber in the Flores island cave was made last year by an Australian-Indonesian team - led by ANU paleoclimatologist Mike Gagan - while they were investigating ancient climates.
An expert caver assisting in sample retrieval abseiled down a 23m-long sinkhole, inaccessible to the original team, at the back of Liang Bua Cave and found the chamber.
"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said archeologist Mike Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.
"If they get (uncontaminated) bone and DNA out of there, it would be mind-boggling," said Professor Morwood, of Wollongong University.
According to Dr Gagan, they found bones of numerous species, from stegodons and giant rats to pigs and primates. Many showed evidence of butchery.
"The bones are also in pristine condition," he said.
Dr Gagan said he and his Indonesian colleagues surveyed just the top 5cm of a 5m-deep layer of mud in the 430sq m cavern. "Imagine what's below," he said. "It might have been a split-level home for hobbits."
Dr Gagan's team will return to the cave in June, with additional members, including Alan Cooper, an expert in ancient DNA with Adelaide University, and CSIRO mammalogist Ken Aplin. Professor Morwood's group will also return to Liang Bua this year, after previously being denied access by Indonesian officials.
Both groups will continue to collaborate with the Indonesian National Research Centre for Archaeology. Dr Gagan's group is also working with the Indonesian Institute of Sciences.
Aliens.
"Also, remember that the Hobbit survived the near-by super-volcano Toba 75,000 years ago"
I thought that was Mt. Doom?
Well,... now we know Dennis Kucinich's origins.
Either would give us a much better idea of what's going on.
I agree. If they get DNA, some books may have to be rewritten.
Maybe near-by is a good place to be. The air might be clearer near-by, soon after the initial blast. Or maybe not. Just a thought.
What they really don't want to believe is that modern man might have also originated somewhere outside of africa. It steps directly into their PC crap.
The earth went into a 'nuclear' winter. Indonesia would have been a warmer place to be. I don't have any idea what they ate though.
Yup. How does this sound? "Out Of Indonesia"?
What is the DNA evidence for human migrations?
Only if she has to shave her feet in addition to trimming her nails.
It'd be interesting to see what Tolkien had in mind when he was conceiving the race of Orcs for his novels. I'm surprised that C.A.I.R. (the Council of Angry Islamic Racicals) hasn't protested the Ring series...
"People refused to believe that someone with that small of a brain could make the tools. How could it be a sophisticated new species?"
Because intellect has a spiritual component as well as a physical one.
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