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Lizards Rapidly Evolve After Introduction to Island
National Geographic ^ | 21 April 2008 | Kimberly Johnson

Posted on 04/22/2008 10:07:24 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Italian wall lizards introduced to a tiny island off the coast of Croatia are evolving in ways that would normally take millions of years to play out, new research shows.

In just a few decades the 5-inch-long (13-centimeter-long) lizards have developed a completely new gut structure, larger heads, and a harder bite, researchers say.

In 1971, scientists transplanted five adult pairs of the reptiles from their original island home in Pod Kopiste to the tiny neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru, both in the south Adriatic Sea.

Genetic testing on the Pod Mrcaru lizards confirmed that the modern population of more than 5,000 Italian wall lizards are all descendants of the original ten lizards left behind in the 1970s.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catastrophicbiology; catastrophism; crevo
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Indeed.
1 posted on 04/22/2008 10:07:25 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Evolution? Adaptation. Survival of the fittest..........


2 posted on 04/22/2008 10:10:03 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Imagine that.

The Theory of Evolution is --- well, evolving!

3 posted on 04/22/2008 10:11:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Now, if we can just get these Italian LOUNGE LIZARDS to adapt to society........

4 posted on 04/22/2008 10:11:37 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

But....but... I thought evolution was a dirty atheist lie!!! [/sarc]


5 posted on 04/22/2008 10:12:05 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

In the Chesapeake Bay, crabbers have been forced to use “cull rings” in their traps - small plastic rings that let baby crabs escape and grow up. Wouldn’t you know, smaller adults are escaping too, and are now creating a population of adult crabs that get no larger than about 4 inches across.

Oddly enough, the guy who pointed this out to me also doesn’t believe in evolution.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 10:16:25 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's a fine line between Guardian Angel and Stalker.)
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But....but... I thought evolution was a dirty atheist lie!!! [/sarc]

How could contemporary evolution theory explain a new gut structure and digestive ability, in just a few decades? That seems quite curious to me.
7 posted on 04/22/2008 10:17:00 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Notice the irony:

Italian wall lizards introduced to a tiny island off the coast of Croatia are evolving in ways that would normally take millions of years to play out, new research shows.

Completely unscientific statement. They have no reason to say that it would "normally take millions of years" to adapt in this way. There is absolutely no way of addressing that statement empirically, hence it's just idle speculation. Since it has obviously happened in 37 years, there is no need to pull a "millions of years" explanation out of thin air.

8 posted on 04/22/2008 10:17:25 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Hey they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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How could contemporary evolution theory explain a new gut structure and digestive ability, in just a few decades? That seems quite curious to me.

Contemporary theory includes the writings of Stephen Gould. Evolution of large populations is known to be slow, but there is no theory that forbids rapid evolution in founder populations.

9 posted on 04/22/2008 10:20:11 AM PDT by js1138
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Oddly enough, the guy who pointed this out to me also doesn’t believe in evolution.

Neither do I, and I posted the article! There's a difference between "evolution", which is a philosophy more than anything else, and empirically observed natural selection/adaptation. The latter is observable, the former is just an assumption made that the latter has been happening for extremely long periods of time.

10 posted on 04/22/2008 10:20:39 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Hey they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Genetic drift...look into it.


11 posted on 04/22/2008 10:22:04 AM PDT by gundog (John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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A base population of only 10 individuals helped I’m sure. Had there been thousands there may have been no changes at all.


12 posted on 04/22/2008 10:23:42 AM PDT by OSHA (framing it as though you've magically neutralized any potential negative eventuality)
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Contemporary evolutionary theory essentially says that organisms adapt to meet the demands of their environment. It’s very hard to tack down a time frame with it. I personally believe evolution increases as population values decrease, based on evidence I’ve seen. These findings do not shatter contemporary evolutionary beliefs, because a time frame for evolution is not standardized. There are multiple theories on how long evolution takes or what specifically speeds an evolutionary step.


13 posted on 04/22/2008 10:24:39 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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A base population of only 10 individuals helped I’m sure. Had there been thousands there may have been no changes at all.

Exactly right.

14 posted on 04/22/2008 10:26:16 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Hey they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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Lizards Rapidly Evolve After Introduction to Island

But enough about the Democrats on Nantucket.
15 posted on 04/22/2008 10:28:13 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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Put me in a good hotel with free food....like steak and lobster and strawberry shortcake....and I bet I gain ten pounds real quick. I can adapt!!! Free wine every night will lower my cholesteral.


16 posted on 04/22/2008 10:28:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Little bastards are showing up everywhere.

17 posted on 04/22/2008 10:32:11 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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So, I guess 6k years may actually be long enough for all the things that must have taken Millions and Billions of years, then?

{halfway joking}


18 posted on 04/22/2008 10:32:20 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I’m not an anti-evolutionary, but this article very succinctly points out the largest flaw; that there are simply things we don’t understand. But even saying that puts you in the fundamentalist camp to some.


19 posted on 04/22/2008 10:33:38 AM PDT by jack_napier (Bob? Gun.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Not possible.

Accomplished evolutionary biologist Ben Stein said so. /sarcasm


20 posted on 04/22/2008 10:35:15 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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