Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

I guess when you can't bribe a U.S. administration, you steal.
1 posted on 05/29/2008 3:30:48 PM PDT by Aristotelian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Aristotelian
I smell a honey-trap.

/johnny

2 posted on 05/29/2008 3:32:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

The dumbass who left the laptop unattended should be fired. I have a friend who does business in China. Rule #1 is don’t even bring your laptop if there is anything on it that you don’t want others to see.


3 posted on 05/29/2008 3:33:26 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

The Chinese are known to do this sort of thing, here as well as in China. It sounds as if someone was pretty stupid if they had anything classified on a laptop in the first place, let alone leaving it unattended.


4 posted on 05/29/2008 3:34:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian
Related:

Belgium Names China in Hacking Incidents
 
Whether hackers breached government network not known
 

 

One good spy is worth 10,000 men.

--Chinese Proverb


Over the last few weeks, hackers have repeatedly attempted to break inside the computer network of the Belgium Federal Government as well as other organizations located in Belgium.

On Friday, May 2, Jo Vandeurzen, the Belgian minister of justice, announced that his government believes the attacks were conducted from China, most likely at the request of Beijing. He admitted that he could not provide irrefutable evidence.

"The context of this affair and all the clues lead to China," Vandeurzen said. The Belgian Minister added that it was not known whether the hackers had succeeded in their attempt to hack the Belgian government network.

Although it is also unclear why Beijing would target the Belgium network, Vandeurzen suggested that China's interest likely results from the presence in the country of most of the European Union institutions as well as the Headquarters of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

Vandeurzen also suggested that the role played by Belgium in Central Africa might be relevant to this affair.

"There is an ongoing investigation, but I can tell you that we have more than mere suspicions," a spokesperson of the Foreign Affairs Ministry said.

The Surete de l' Etat, a Belgian Intelligence Agency equivalent to Britain's MI5, has confirmed a "clear and real threat" to the security of the state.

Karel De Gucht, the controversial Belgian minister of foreign affairs, had already told parliament that his ministry was the object of cyber-spying conducted by Chinese agents several weeks ago.
 

It is not clear at the moment why Belgian officials have decided to go public with these allegations. In the past, the Belgian government reacted with great discretion to this kind of affair.

In 2005, a Chinese defector revealed the magnitude of the Chinese spying effort against European governments and technology industry, alleging among other things that hundreds of students and scholars were involved in espionage in European countries.

"There is a large Chinese intelligence operation in northern Europe spanning communications, space, defense, chemicals and heavy industries," said Claude Monique, a Brussels-based intelligence analyst.

"The Chinese agent has given details of hundreds of experts and their activities. As a result national inquiries have been launched, certainly by the German, French, Netherlands and Belgian agencies and, I believe, in Britain too."

"The Chinese operate at many levels, from the pure intelligence agents based at embassies to researchers sent to Europe for training to individual citizens who work apparently independently for 5 or 10 years until they are in a position to prove their usefulness," an intelligence official said.

The phenomenon is by no mean limited to Europe. In the United States, the FBI has estimated that spying activity against technology companies conducted by Chinese agents is increasing at the annual rate of 20 to 30 percent. In the Los Angeles area, it is not entirely clear whether the FBI is infiltrating the Chinese Mafia, or if the opposite is taking place.

"I think you see it where something that would normally take 10 years to develop takes them two or three," said David Szady, the chief of FBI counterintelligence operations in 2005.

"What they are looking for are the systems or materials or the designs or the batteries or the air-conditioning or the things that make that thing tick," Szady said. "That's what they are very good at collecting, going after both the private sector, the industrial complexes, as well as the colleges and universities in collecting scientific developments that they need," Szady added.

Many experts believe that it is thanks to industrial espionage that Chinese scientists have managed to match the US, Japan and Europe technology in various areas such as supercomputing, communications, space and nano technologies.

Some military advances seem suspicious too, such as a new cruise missile extremely similar to the US Tomahawk or a sea-borne defense system that looks like the twin of the Aegis.

In their 2007 report to Congress, the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission (USCC) stated that "Chinese espionage activities in the United States are so extensive that they comprise the single greatest risk to the security of American technologies."


http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?at_code=434212

 

5 posted on 05/29/2008 3:35:56 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian
Surreptitious copying is believed to have occurred when a laptop was left unattended during Gutierrez's trip to Beijing for trade talks in December

If the laptop had any classified material on it, why was it ever 'left unattended'?

IIRC, wasn't there a misplaced/missing laptop on one of SoS Albright's trips?
6 posted on 05/29/2008 3:37:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

WHY are not our Government pukes held to the same level of security as private businesses??

We were not permitted to have ANYTHING of a Confidential nature on our notebooks — PERIOD, when traveling out of the country.

It was ONCE a Federal Requirement that carrying Industry “Confidential” material required DOCUMENTATION signed by a Legal representative of the Company authorizing the “carry” out of the country...

I wonder what controls are placed on our “civil service” pukes??

I’m sick and tired of our “Civil Servants” failures to live under the same “rules/laws/morals” as we lowly peasants must follow.


8 posted on 05/29/2008 3:50:43 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

Didnt they try to steal some Blackberries also on this same trip?


9 posted on 05/29/2008 3:56:44 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

People that do not know the first think on PC security should never be allowed to have one!


10 posted on 05/29/2008 4:02:35 PM PDT by Bommer (There's an (R) next to his name! I must trash my principles & beliefs and vote for the (R)!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

Fire the retards.


12 posted on 05/29/2008 4:06:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

When Bush visited China in 2002, his aides set up small meeting-tents in their hotel rooms, and played country music at loud levels when anyone was in the room - to foil suspected wire-taps and cameras. Such espionage is to be expected.


15 posted on 05/29/2008 4:16:16 PM PDT by PGR88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian
a laptop was left unattended during Gutierrez's trip to Beijing for trade talks in December

Sure. "unattended". I guess any government official can use this method of espionage from now on and always be let off the hook.

16 posted on 05/29/2008 4:23:12 PM PDT by Perchant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Aristotelian

chicom bump for later..............


18 posted on 05/29/2008 6:12:56 PM PDT by indthkr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson