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1 posted on 07/08/2008 6:58:11 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Uncledave

Hydrogen ping!.........


2 posted on 07/08/2008 6:58:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Red Badger
“Hydrogen can be easily converted to electrical and mechanical energy without any production of carbon dioxide,”

But isn't water vapor an even bigger greenhouse gas?

4 posted on 07/08/2008 7:02:59 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Red Badger
... cellulose-based high-temperature hydrogen production process ...

The high temperature part of this may still mean that production of hydrogen still consumes more energy that the hydrogen product provides.

5 posted on 07/08/2008 7:04:19 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Red Badger

If the scientists are good, the by-product will be beer.


6 posted on 07/08/2008 7:06:29 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Red Badger
“Hydrogen can be easily converted to electrical and mechanical energy without any production of carbon dioxide,”

When the cellulose is broken down to produce the hydrogen, what happens to the carbon? For every Kilogram of hydrogen in cellulose, there is 7.2 kg of carbon.

7 posted on 07/08/2008 7:09:15 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Red Badger
They found Desulfurococcus fermentans in the Uzon Caldera on the Kamchatka Peninsula, an isolated spit of land in eastern Siberia

Allow me to be the first to link this to the Tunguska Event of 1908.

8 posted on 07/08/2008 7:10:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Red Badger

Now suppose we produce Hydrogen by the quadzillion cubic foot per year. Some of that Hydrogen is going to escape, and go into the upper reaches of the atmosphere and even be lost into space, since it is so light. Then the oxygen that would normally be bound to that hydrogen will be left sitting around with nothing to do.

So, what is going to have a greater effect on life and the environment, elevated inert CO2 or hightly reactive Oxygen?


13 posted on 07/08/2008 7:15:48 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
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To: Red Badger
Biswarup Mukhopadhyay

This guy's name even sounds like a digestive process....

15 posted on 07/08/2008 7:16:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Red Badger

Wow.

This is a highly significant finding.


16 posted on 07/08/2008 7:18:09 AM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: Red Badger

It isn’t hydrogen fusion, but it might be entertaining trying to build hydrogen farms inside volcanoes.


23 posted on 07/08/2008 7:33:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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Renewable Energy Ping

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28 posted on 07/08/2008 9:04:44 AM PDT by Uncledave (Zombie Reagan '08)
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To: Red Badger

“Hydrogen can be easily converted to electrical and mechanical energy without any production of carbon dioxide,”

No it just produces water vapor.... Which is the stronger ‘greenhouse agent’ again?


29 posted on 07/08/2008 9:10:19 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Red Badger

Hydrogen economy? That’s probably a long ways off.

Interesting article in the current “Skeptic” magazine.

Not available online, and I read it 2 months ago, but basically it said that it takes more energy to produce it than Hydrogen provides, and that the vehicle to transport it is something like 10,000 lbs, and can carry 1,000 lbs of Hydrogen. That’s not to say that the technology isn’t GOING to be developed, but it may be a while.

The article:

The Hydrogen Economy
Savior of humanity or
an economic black hole?

by Alice Friedemann


32 posted on 07/08/2008 10:04:17 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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Thanks Red Badger.
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34 posted on 07/08/2008 11:01:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Red Badger

“The Hydrogen Hoax”
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/id.132/article_detail.asp ;


35 posted on 07/08/2008 11:01:42 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Red Badger

I can see some future Presidential candidate bemoaning our addiction to bacteria farts.


37 posted on 07/08/2008 11:10:08 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals?)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1492650/posts?page=3#3


43 posted on 07/09/2008 11:54:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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