Posted on 10/02/2008 8:15:07 PM PDT by shoedog
Very pleased with Palin's performance. However, She had the chance right off the bat, and like McCain, they refuse to pound the Democrats on their support and the corruption of Fannie Mae. They also refused to hammer home that McCain and Bush focused on trying to reform and the Dems didn't support. They need to get that message out!!!
McCain has obviously concluded he can’t win by attacking Democrats on the economy. Palin has to play team ball. It’s infuriating to conservatives, but he is staying close to Barry through the turmoil so he may have a winning strategy (not tactic).
“it means the only way they can attack is by passing a horrendous bill.”
I’m still trying to figure out why there is so much support for this damn bill, but it does seem like a logical explanation.
I think McCain is hesitating because he is under the impression that we really need this bailout bill. Watch after it is passed, the gloves will come off.
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I hope you are right but McCain does not seem to have the disposition in him to “fight, fight, fight” as he ended his acceptance speech with.
The Democrats are hanging this around his neck and the truth is being ignored by those Americans too lazy to educate themselves about this crisis. Government created this problem!
His bi-partisanship is not serving him well when he is taking a beating.
Amen.
This is just stupid, stupid, stupid.
McCain & Palin cannot "out-populist" the dems. Ain't goin' to happen. They have to nail them on their failures and lies.
And this one is SO BIG, and SO EASY.
"Baffling" is right. Unless something dramatic is being kept in reserve, America has lost this election.
I hope there are enough pieces left to pick up in four years. After watching the Hitl ... excuse me, the Obama Youth musical video, I hope we even *have* elections again ...
Now you must excuse me, I have to go run sound tomorrow for a "Folk Festival", where half (and it's only that low a proportion because we're rural) of the folks are big "O" fans.
welcome to two weeks ago...but why stop at McCain/Palin??? the entire GOP has effed this up by not making it front and center and demanding bawney frank and chris dodd step down...
I disagree...she’s right on....
these CEO’s waking away with undeserved gozillions has got to stop....most of them, like the Lehman’s, are big rat donors anyway...
I think it must be because their polling shows most of the public don’t understand the role of Congress. Trying to re-educate a large number of people in a short period of time is extraordinarily difficult and full of risk.
From Ace:
McCain Holding Back on Fannie and Freddie? Um... Wait For It
No confirmation on this, no tip, no hint.
But I know what he’s doing.
John McCain is waiting until the bill passes.
And then he will unleash the dogs of hell.
And he will say, “I stayed away from making these partisan attacks, even though you lied ridiculously about me and your own attempts at ‘reform.’ I held back, because partisan attacks — even truthful ones — would harm our country and reduce the chances of getting a vital bill passed.
“Well, the bill is now passed. I put country first. You didn’t, and you lied on top of that. And now — only now that this crisis has been dealt with, to the extent we can — I’m going to give you a bit of straight-talk about Fannie, Freddie, my attempts to reform it, and your attempts to block reform on behalf of your big donors and friends in ACORN.”
Count on it.
What can't be arued or explained, corporation taxes?
If I drink the Kool-aid and abandon all objectivity, Palin hit it out of the park.
In reality, it was a draw.
Yes. I thought she missed a great opportunity. She could have said: “We propose to fix high gas and fuel prices by doing everything necessary to achieve energy independence. Obama proposes to fix them by imposing new taxes on the oil companies.
“Apparently he doesn’t understand that whenif you raise taxes on a corporation, then you raise their costs, and the cost of their products. And that would happen with every other business he wants to raise taxes on.”
When the rule is "Make loans to everybody, no matter how foolish, because we (Fannie & Freddie) will buy them ... and by the way if you don't, we'll penalize you.", then the natural and expected reaction inevitably leads to what's happening now.
There's adequate hard proof that this is *primarily* a dem-built fiasco.
It ought to be hung around their necks and set alight. Obama, in just 150 days in the Senate or so, was #2 in Fannie & Freddie's contribution hit parade --- right after Dodd, who's the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee. If that doesn't absolutely reek of corruption, and corruption with an astronomically high price to the entire country ... then I don't know what does.
"Wall Street" doesn't make the rules. You are getting all upset over a few millions of dollars ... and taking your eye off *trillions*, and possibly the next "Great Depression".
I'd urge you to be less concerned with envy (or what seems to me to be envy ... I could be wrong, so I do not want to sound too harsh here), and more concerned with the big picture of what really caused all this.
If you aren't aware of it, Google the "Community Reinvestment Act", and read about the direction it took in 1995, and what grew out of that.
I hope that you are right. OOOOOh boy, I sure hope you are right!
They need to push this greed theme focusing not on the people getting the loans (and the debt that went with it) but on the money lenders and those behind the lenders. They need to say "follow the money" and then link it to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae where the greed was multiplied from hundreds of thousands to hundreds of millions and sold as securities back to people with fraudulent ratings of the risk it carried. That greed then multiplied into the billions as it was bought and sold.
The end of the money trail leads back the the enablers in Washington who pushed bad policy while blocking regulation and oversight of Freddie and Fannie.
It's not a simple thing to explain in 90 seconds but they need to show the money trail comes back to Obama's campaign and his advisers.
The CEO's and Wall Street firms were buying and selling these things to make money just like they do with any securities. This became a problem not because of the market but because of the incorrect estimation of the risk involved. Yes, there was greed but all of Wall Street is driven by the need to make money by buying low and selling high. That involves risk and when risk is manipulated, misstated, and concealed in a way that creates a massive bubble the market will eventually crash.
This could not have happened without Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. That is where this scam originated. The enablers in Washington allowed them to perpetrate the fraud and kept the scam going.
The OP was complaining the Palin did not hit the Dims with their corruption in the financial ‘crisis’. To make that charge, she would have to explain how the Dims corrupted things to people who haven’t had the time to follow the details. That requires a detailed explanation of the situation and the statements in committee by several Dims. That takes more than 90 seconds.
IMO.
Still waiting. When will he start?
“So....when governments raise taxes they raise the price of everything we buy.”
I like how Obama wants to give tax breaks for companies that stay in the US, but proposes a tax policy that drives companies out of the US.
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