Destroy All Monsters!
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Muslims said:
“...they said the very peace of the world hung on the outcome.”
Well that says everything about Islam now doesn’t it ?
Do the Muslims believe Jesus Christ is God?
This is a non-starter.
Then why is it that everywhere Islam comes face to face with another faith there is bloodshed?
We've been showing that ... we're waiting on you to return the favor.
"The Trinity is currently not accepted by Muslims as explaining the infinity and oneness of God," said Dr Kalin.
"We don't agree on that, so we shouldn't try to sink these differences into a warped theology, but talk to each other on the basis of agreeing to disagree."
Sorry, but anyone who is familiar with the Bible knows that Christianity is the “fulfillment” of the Hebrew prophecies. Traditionally, Christians believe that everything in the Old Testament is true—sometimes literally, in the case of historical events, sometimes fuguratively in various ways.
The orthodox understanding is that the Jewish prophecies and histories have not been superseded, but fulfilled. Jesus is the Messiah promised by God to the Jews.
Understandably, Jews do not agree with all of that. But the two Testaments can be reconciled. They agree on facts, such as the dispensation of the Ten Commandments to Moses or God’s choice of Isaac and Jacob as the heirs to Abraham.
Islam simply CANNOT be reconciled with the Bible, either Jewish OR Christian. It is full of fictions and distortions. What these Imams are requesting of the Pope is impossible. Yes, it would be good to have a dialogue, but first it must be recognized what the problems are.
And this is just one of them, unfortunately. The most basic problem, as the Pope suggested earlier at Regensberg, is that Muslims do not believe in the underlying importance of rationality. In their view, faith and reason CANNOT be reconciled. John’s vision of Christ as Logos is inconceivable to them. Theirs is an irrational religion and an irrational universe, totally arbitrary, and therefore not allowing free will or human understanding.
Odd. I thought that the Pope has already said that we share an Abrahamic faith with muslims. He is trying to establish a common ground and dialog for getting along better in this world.
He also believes that our (Catholics at least) respective respect for Mary will help in the dialog too.
When 138 senior Muslim scholars and clergy tried to establish the common ground between Islam and Christianity last year, they said the very peace of the world hung on the outcome
What common ground?
Christians do not marry children
Christians do not teach children how to be homicide bombers to blow up other children
Christians do not relagate women to 3 class citizen status.
Christians do not stone their women to death when they are gang raped by a bunch of men.
Nor do they kill their women to restore “honor” to a man
Christians would like to convert others to Christianity while Muslim prefer to slaugther anyone and ebveryone that is not already a Muslim.
Does Not seem to be much common ground here.
What media calls “common ground” looks more like “strong arming”.
The Catholic Church is Apostolic and has a very clear Creed. There’s not a lot of grey area for conjecture.
The harder Islam tries to sway, negotiate, and even intimidate the Vatican, the worse off Islam will be. Islam should surrender to Jesus Christ—He who did not quench a smoldering wick, who did not break a bruised reed.
Absolute BS... There is NO commonality between the Catholic Faith and the Mohammadean heresy. Islam denies Christ.
This common ground crap is a Trojan Horse, and I pray Pope Benedict XVI knows better than to appease the ecuminist fanatics who dream of a one world religion.
To believe commonality exists between Islam and Christianity is to entreat superficial platitudes at best, and implicitly deny the core of Chritian dogma at worst.
The signs of common grounds... 911, no church nor cathedrals in Saudi Arabia, no Temple on Temle Mount etc...
I guess not.
Why are we afraid to nuke those SOBs and keep pretending we have common grounds?
In his speech at Regensburg two years ago, Pope Benedict XVI reached out to Muslims, but with two significant caveats: 1) he said that Muslim and Christian leaders must acknowledge that murder of the innocent is never “God’s will,” and 2) there must be reciprocity (there are mosques in Rome; where are the churches in Mecca?).
Still waiting...
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The Muslims want the Pope to agree with them? That won’t happen. The Pope is, well, The Pope. There’s no one “head” over Islam to speak for all of Islam. This won’t happen and they can’t force it. In fact, trying to force it will work against them.
Somewhere I read that the Koran was originally a “how to get along with Christians who won’t accept “me” (Muhammad) as a real prophet when I know I’m a prophet and I’ll prove it by creating my own religion if you don’t believe me” manual.
Or What ?
When the Muslims practice reciprocity and allow the freedom to practice Christianity, build churches and proslytize without repercussion as is done in the West...... then they wil have my respect as a religion, but not my admission to anything.