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I strongly object to using Sarah Palin as a scapegoat for McCain's loss

Posted on 11/05/2008 12:38:54 AM PST by mathwhizz

People here are saying here she's too right wing to ever win an election and doesn't have any credentials with independents?

Yeah, maybe after the MSM character assassination she went under but people have the memories of gnats and expectations for her will be non-existent if she runs for President. She's a quick study and will surprise a lot of people.

But do any of you know about her record in Alaska?

She challenged a corrupt incumbent republican governor in the primary with no institutional support and very little money and won. The Alaskan Republican Party hates her guts and that's a good thing! She then beat a democrat former governor of Alaska.

She raised taxes on the oil companies and cut every citizen of Alaska a check for $1300. Yeah, a lot of people don't like economic populism but it plays with lots of conservative democrats and independents.

She's a fiscal conservative that balances budgets and uses the veto pen and wants to streamline and minimize government.

She passed a $40 billion natural gas pipeline, a project that has been in the works for decades and every predecessor failed to get passed, the largest infrastructure project in US history. She did it in her first year as Governor.

Yeah, she's a social conservative but she's also a pragmatist. She's not against sex education in schools, or teaching evolution, or banning books, or any of the nutty things the liberals have been saying about her. Yeah, she's pro-life, so was Ronald Reagan.

I don't know if 2012 is the right timing for her. She is a woman and unfortunately there is a much higher standard necessary for a woman to cross that commander-in-chief threshold especially for her after she's been ridiculed so much by the media.

Her best bet may be to achieve a record of accomplishment in Alaska as a two-term governor and set her sights on 2016.

Given enough time and a serious study of national and international issues (lots of foreign policy trips, speeches at think tanks, appearances on FOX News and becoming a regular on the sunday morning shows, campaigning to take back the house and senate in 2010), she will rebuild her credibility with the American people.

And remember before Sarah became the pitbull with lipstick she was the pragmatic fiscally conservative governor of an energy state with 80% approval ratings which you need lots of independent and democratic support to get. That was her brand and if there is any crime the McCain people did to her was destroy that brand she worked her whole political career to achieve.


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To: mathwhizz

Gov. Palin didn’t lose. McCain had about 30% before she joined the ticket. None of the others on his short list would have improved his chances as well as she did.


21 posted on 11/05/2008 12:47:31 AM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: PhiKapMom

GW was a no-show, pitiful.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 12:47:47 AM PST by OldTCS (Look at the bright side, the world ends in 2012. . .)
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To: mathwhizz

“I strongly object to using Sarah Palin as a scapegoat for McCain’s loss”

McCain better not take that route.


23 posted on 11/05/2008 12:48:27 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: jpsb
Blame George W Bush for the GOP lose.

Pres. Bush deserves a share of the blame, as does Sen. McCain himself. But let us not forget the Republicans in Congress from 2000 to 2006 who spent too much money and did too little to defend America and promote conservatism.

24 posted on 11/05/2008 12:48:42 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: mathwhizz

Troll thread is troll thread.


25 posted on 11/05/2008 12:48:47 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: mathwhizz
And remember before Sarah became the pitbull with lipstick she was the pragmatic fiscally conservative governor of an energy state with 80% approval ratings which you need lots of independent and democratic support to get.

Governor Palin was never a "pitbull", she was and is a "Hockey Mom". The quote was what was the difference between a "Hockey Mom" and a "pitbull".

There is a big difference regardless of what Barry Hussein said.

While having some of the strengths of a pitbull, that lady is no dog, by a very long shot.

26 posted on 11/05/2008 12:48:59 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: healy61
I will work for her election starting tomorrow if she tips her hand. So will the wife.

I will also as long as she take a blood oath:

NOT TO USE ONE MCCAIN OR BUSH ADVISOR, HANDLER OR EVEN SUPPORTER, FOR HER CAMPAIGN.

NO MORE "COMPASSIONATE-CONSERVATIVES" OR RINO'S, IN OUR (NEW)"CONSERVATIVE" PARTY!!!

27 posted on 11/05/2008 12:49:45 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: mathwhizz
Sarah is the future. If the pinheads at RNC see it otherwise, I'm outa the party.

Nam Vet

28 posted on 11/05/2008 12:49:57 AM PST by Nam Vet (Obama is the radical left's ' moist dream ' for America.)
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To: mathwhizz

Without Palin the base would have stayed home in droves and tonight would have been much, much, worse. She turned this from an apocalypse into serious drubbing that we can recover from.

This was not going to be the GOP’s year. I think we would have been better off if Kerry had won in 2004 because all the horrors of the last year would have been on his watch. I think that we may be very, very, very thankful that Mac wasn’t in the Oval Office when we are watching the returns come in in 2010. The next disaster will be the sole property of Obama, Reid, and Pellosi.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 12:50:44 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: mathwhizz

Now the MSM is telling us that Palin is not the answer to GOP woes because she is emblematic of our failure to attract independent voters. They miss what is wrong with the party.

1. The party has lost its way. The answer is not continued drift to the middle. The party needs to find its roots and grow them.

2. The GOP does not have to follow to the center. It needs to lead to the right. Educate. Illuminate. Lead!!!!!


30 posted on 11/05/2008 12:51:10 AM PST by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
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To: PhiKapMom

You are as bad as the libs blaming everything on Bush...pathetic


31 posted on 11/05/2008 12:53:45 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: toughwuss

yeah I’m also thinking about Jindal now. I was for Sanford for VP before Palin came around but Jindal seems to have that special ‘spark’... you don’t have to worry about him doing an interview with Charlie Gibson, for example.


32 posted on 11/05/2008 12:53:54 AM PST by ari-freedom (Paint your finger purple on Tuesday!)
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To: ari-freedom

even if he did an interview with gibson Jindal would wipe the floor with Gibson... no doubt


33 posted on 11/05/2008 12:56:06 AM PST by toughwuss
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To: PhiKapMom
I blame George W Bush for the loss I do also but for different reasons.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Bush has to go postal over this financial crisis and make it a do or die (nothing has been done to date and we are not dead) issue 6 weeks before the election?

While not the single reason (McCain did a lot to ensure his loss) for McCain's defeat, it certainly was one of the major one's.

While W has done a lot of stupid things in his 2nd term, this will turn out to be the worst (IMHO) and I cannot believe he did not KNOW the affect this would have on the outcome.

34 posted on 11/05/2008 12:56:47 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: mathwhizz; pissant

Palin/Hunter 2012 starts today!


35 posted on 11/05/2008 12:56:54 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Luke21
McCain ran a dreadful campaign. Sarah was the best thing ever to happen to him. He never played to her strangths and let the media savage her, serving her up to Gibson and Couric. What a stiff he was.

I agree with all of that.

36 posted on 11/05/2008 12:57:05 AM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: PhiKapMom

Bush having approval ratings in the high 20s sure didn’t help. We might have won tonight if Bush bothered to use the success of the Iraq Surge to raise his approval ratings in the low 40s.


37 posted on 11/05/2008 12:57:21 AM PST by yongin (The 2008 election proved the MSM has more influence than Talk Radio)
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To: mathwhizz

No way will I put what happen on Palin
I thought she did a great job , as a
guy I cannot find no fault with her
I’m thankful that I had the chance to vote
for someone like her.!!!!! I have no regrets


38 posted on 11/05/2008 12:58:51 AM PST by MATSEVAH
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I could be good with Sarah - Mike Pence or Sarah - Duncan Hunter. No Romney, Giuliani, or other flip flopping “moderates”. Real conservatives only. Sarah, Mike, and Duncan are all awesome.


39 posted on 11/05/2008 12:59:30 AM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: toughwuss

yeah. Sanford kinda lost it with his Blitzer interview. Great guy with solid conservative principles. But Jindal has the “I can get you back and get you good” quality.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 1:00:05 AM PST by ari-freedom (“So this is how Liberty dies, with thunderous applause”)
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