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To: allmendream

God is the ultimate intelligent designer.

I fail to see how you can claim to believe in Him and insulting His design like that at the same time.

There’s just too big a disconnect there.


36 posted on 02/09/2009 1:48:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

No, the disconnect is conflating the specific and idiotic claims of the I.D. movement with the idea that the universe itself was created by a omniscient entity.

Not all who believe that God created the universe believe in a “special” creation a few thousand years ago.

Not all who believe that God created the universe believe that I.D. is a scientific hypothesis, or that biological constructs are “irreducibly complex” and could not have formed by the mechanism that God usually uses to change living systems (evolution through natural selection of genetic variation) and as such God had and has to constantly tinker with his shoddy design.

I know why you would wish to conflate the two ideas, but in reality there is very little common ground.

For example both the Pope and I believe that God created the universe. Both the Pope and I believe that I.D. has nothing of value to contribute to the debate. Both the Pope and I believe that evolution is the means that God used and uses to change living systems. Neither the Pope nor I believe in the specific (and idiotic) claims of I.D..


38 posted on 02/09/2009 2:09:16 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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