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To: Pearls Before Swine
Yeah, but where is the damn BC? Not that derivative instrument, fake or no, which was posted on the internet, but the real thing.

The COLB is a real document in which the State of Hawaii certifies the facts of his birth, including location.

That is all that is necessary to establish his eligibility.

The rest of the information on the original form is not relevant.

108 posted on 03/05/2009 6:20:27 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

You have had it pointed out to you before that a Certificate of Live Birth is not that same as a Birth Certificate. You also had links posted to you that showed that Hawaii does not accept a COLB as valid proof of birth. There were also links posted to you that showed that a person can have a COLB amended. You tried using Fact Check as a source.


110 posted on 03/05/2009 6:39:53 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: curiosity

I Beg to differ. Show me where on the COLB it identifies the location. All the Certificate says is that a birth has been recorded. Do some research, and you’ll find that even Hawaii does not use its own COLB as proof of birth in Hawaii, but requires a birth certificate in many instances.

Obama’s sister — who by her own admission was born in Indonesia, has a Hawaii COLB. Just like her brother.


114 posted on 03/05/2009 6:52:09 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: curiosity
The COLB is a real document in which the State of Hawaii certifies the facts of his birth, including location. That is all that is necessary to establish his eligibility. The rest of the information on the original form is not relevant.

That is not the way I see it. A presidential candidate, if questioned in this matter, should provide full disclosure, not the minimum allowed to hide behind a state bureaucratic decision. It has further been stated that Hawaii, as a territory which was late to become a state, has (or had) a peculiarity in its COLB regulations. Someone who had not been born in the state could also obtain a COLB. I believe Mr. Obama's half-sister, who was born in Indonesia did. In other words, the facts of birth are by law not necessarily fully disclosed in a Hawaii COLB.

Why are Obama's supporters such as yourself so eager to accept a minimum standard of proof rather than full disclosure? This is the presidency we are talking about.

Much more curiosity was shown concerning Sara or Todd Palin's fishing citations than an in anything more than a superficial justification of BHO's eligibility to be president under the constitution.

162 posted on 03/06/2009 4:38:31 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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