For some reason I just love drawing attention to every new twist and turn of this story :o)
All the best—GGG
What, creationists predict that people will make mistakes? I predict people will use the bathroom today.
Typical Creationist lie.
First, nothing in science is “proof” of anything; it is either evidence that does or does not support a theory.
And they cannot even get the basic science correct, typical of creationist ignorance and/or willingness to lie.
Ida was heralded as a link between pro-simians (lemurs and such) and simians.
How could a transitional fossil between lemurs and monkeys possibly be “proof” or even evidence of the evolutionary link between apes and humans?
One may as well claim that a transitional fossil between an amphibian and a reptile “proves” that birds evolved from dinosaurs.
I find it odd that the acronym “ICR” should be followed by the word “News”.
As usual.
Same source, same propagana.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/may/19/ida-fossil-missing-link
Just by way of reminiscing, that is a link to one of the original press releases/news stories.....
Here are some of the quotes from that story:
“This little creature is going to show us our connection with the rest of all the mammals; with cows and sheep, and elephants and anteaters,” said Sir David Attenborough who is narrating a BBC documentary on the find. “The more you look at Ida, the more you can see, as it were, the primate in embryo.”
“This will be the one pictured in the textbooks for the next hundred years,” said Dr Jørn Hurum, the palaeontologist from Oslo University’s Natural History Museum who assembled the scientific team to study the fossil. “It tells a part of our evolution that’s been hidden so far. It’s been hidden because the only [other] specimens are so incomplete and so broken there’s nothing almost to study.” The fossil has been formally named Darwinius masillae in honour of Darwin’s 200th birthday year.
With respect to that first paragrap, ICR, did, in fact make a mistake.
Ida wasn’t heralded as the missing link showing that man evolved from ape...no no no! The claims were MUCH larger than that. Ida is going to show us “our connection with the rest of all the mammals; with cows and sheep, and elephants and anteaters”.
So shame on ICR for not reporting the Evos own words! Without ICR toning it down, they would look even worse!
Ida is obviously a primate because she has nails on her digits rather than claws and she has opposable thumbs and big toes.
• Ida is female because she doesn’t have a baculum, or penis bone.
• She dates from around the time that our branch of the primates (the haplorhines) which includes monkeys and apes split from a second group including the lemurs, lorises, pottos and bush babies (the strepsirrhines).
• Key features of her skeleton suggest she is not an ancient lemur. She has no “grooming claw” on her second toe, a feature that all lemurs share. She also does not have a set of fused teeth in the middle of her bottom jaw called a “tooth comb”. Finally, the tarsus bone in her ankle is shaped like our ancestors. So it is likely that she is a very early haplorhine primate.
• Ida’s left wrist was broken, but had partly healed. The researchers believe this injury would have hampered her climbing and may have contributed to her death.
• Ida’s large eye holes in her skull suggest she was probably adapted for night vision and so was nocturnal.
• Her milk teeth are in place with adult teeth forming behind, indicating that she was still a juvenile – probably six to nine months old.
• Ida’s last meal is visible in her preserved stomach contents. It contained fruit and leaves, but no insects.
From the Guardian. May 2009
Bagged any heretics yet today?
Ida who? What transitional fossil that establishes human evolution?
A lemur as the missing link?
That seems bit of stretch.
This past May, a fossil nicknamed Ida was loudly heralded by the evolutionary scientific community as the long-sought-after “missing link” that supposedly proved ape-to-human evolution.
This, Brian....IS A LIE. Ida is not provided as evidence of a missing link between apes and humans. Ida is claimed to be a ("a", not "THE") "missing link" from much further back in human evolution than any human-to-ape link. Cherry picking scientists and statements is so typical of you, Brian. Bet that scientists doesn't believe that Ida died 4,351 years ago.