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Copenhagen climate summit: global warming 'caused by sun's radiation'
The Telegraph ^ | 12/8/2009 | Louise Gray

Posted on 12/08/2009 5:22:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind

As the world gathered in the Danish capital for the UN Climate Change Conference, more than 50 scientists, businessmen and lobby groups met to discuss the arguments against man made global warming.

Although the meeting was considerably smaller than the official gathering of 15,000 people meeting down the road, the organisers claimed it could change the course of negotiations.

Professor Henrik Svensmark, a physicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen, said the recent warming period was caused by solar activity.

He said the last time the world experienced such high temperatures, during the medieval warming period, the Sun and the Earth were in a similar cycle.

Professor Nils-Axel Morner, a geologist from Stockholm University, said sea level rise has also been exaggerated by the “climate alarmists” using computer models.

He said observational data from lake sediments, coast lines and trees show sea levels have remained stable.

Professor Cliff Ollier, another geologist from the University of Western Australia, also said the environmental lobby have got it wrong on ice caps. He said the melting of ice sheets is caused by geothermal activity rather than global surface temperatures.

Professor Ian Plimer, from the University of Adelaide, claimed carbon dioxide from volcanoes rather than humans is driving warming as part of a natural process.

The meeting was organised by Danish group Climate Sense and the lobby group Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT).

Craig Rucker, Executive Director of CFACT, admitted the organisation have taken funding from Exxon Mobil in the past but pointed out that many environmental groups are also receiving funding from major corporations.

Graham Capper of Climate Sense said manmade global warming was a myth and scientists who said otherwise were lying.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 12/08/2009 5:22:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Well ... there may be some evidence that the Sun provides warmth -- but the science on that is not settled!
2 posted on 12/08/2009 5:26:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What about El Nino? Does anyone remember that? That’s realistically what could be causing unusual changes in the temperature and all in all I think that listening to the celebrities has caused formerly sane scientists to ignore these very common things.

El Nino
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/elnino/el-nino-story.html

La Nina
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/elnino/la-nina-story.html


3 posted on 12/08/2009 5:27:11 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Professor Henrik Svensmark, a physicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen, said the recent warming period was caused by solar activity.”

Yeah but they can’t put a tax on the sun can they? ;-)


4 posted on 12/08/2009 5:29:18 PM PST by Dem Guard
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To: Niuhuru

You mean to tell me, this ginormous, heat emitting nuclear explosion cooking next door might have something to do with global warming?

Who woulda thunk it...


5 posted on 12/08/2009 5:29:54 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: SeekAndFind; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/08/2009 5:31:12 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What could the sun possibly have to do with our planet’s temperatures? That’s such an absurd idea!!! Next thing you know some idiot will claim that water can make things wet.


7 posted on 12/08/2009 5:32:27 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

You never know these days. :)


8 posted on 12/08/2009 5:32:49 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The question is does the lack of sun spots and hence cooler sun signify a delayed response of the typical increase, or is this the beginning of another Maunder or Sporer Minimum and generally cooler temperatures over time. Since there has appeared to be an 88 year cycle, the next sun spot maximum could rival the maximum of the Dust Bowl/Depression era with more heat from man made causes. On the other hand a continued sunspot minimum would be a major change. Tune in for an exciting/unpredictible future.

Whether we go hotter or cooler, let’s all save energy and get out from under the thumb of the Muzzies, Nigeria, and Venezuela; and save our own hard earned money.


9 posted on 12/08/2009 5:34:10 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: smoothsailing
>> Professor Ian Plimer, from the University of Adelaide, claimed carbon dioxide from volcanoes rather than humans is driving warming as part of a natural process.

"Stupid" volcanoe ping
10 posted on 12/08/2009 5:35:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What they need to do is put up a website and publish their point-by-point refutations.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 5:36:16 PM PST by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv; Nervous Tick

*ping*


12 posted on 12/08/2009 5:37:02 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SeekAndFind
scientists who said otherwise were lying.

Scientists lie. Mark that one for the record!! (Lots of room for self-named "scientists" to say otherwise... and prove it. Silence is complicity.)

13 posted on 12/08/2009 5:39:15 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who da thunk it...... Henrik’s a Rush fan

I really don’t see how it can be so hot with so many fans.


14 posted on 12/08/2009 5:39:52 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...the organisation have taken funding from Exxon Mobil...”

But somehow researchers who compete for grant money from politicians are above question.

[insert image of Inspector Renault]


15 posted on 12/08/2009 5:40:39 PM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: All
more use should be made of the "H" word: global warming HYPOTHESIS

Hypothesis: a proposition, or set of propositions, set forth as an explanation for the occurrence of some specified group of phenomena, either asserted merely as a provisional conjecture to guide investigation (working hypothesis) or accepted as highly probable in the light of established facts.

16 posted on 12/08/2009 5:44:12 PM PST by bsf2009
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To: SeekAndFind

Profesor Hvensmark: “Ve’re-a gueeng tu fuyege-a tu zee soon itselff und i ixpect tu be-a zee furst Dune-a tu velk oon zee Soon. Bork bork bork! Es yuoo meeght imegeene-a, thees veell meke-a me-a a Greet Dune-a! Noo yuoo mey esk yuoorselff, vun’t ve-a get ell boorned up? Es sceeentists ve-a reply , Nu, nu, nu! ve’re-a gueeng et neeght. Um de hur de hur de hur. Ja, thet’s zee teecket. Um de hur de hur de hur. I ixpect tu reeese-a a sveet und ...” (mure-a frum Cupenhegee, mekers ooff feene-a choo, et 11)


17 posted on 12/08/2009 5:44:41 PM PST by tumblindice (Republicrats=Demoblicans: same difference)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is past time for legitimate, ethical, intelligent, hard working scientists to rise up and defend their life’s work.

Watching those charlatans at UEA CRU will tarnish many reputations for decades.

Much like priests who have been permanently damaged by a few perverts.

Pick up your Bunsen Burners dudes and START A FIRE!!!!


18 posted on 12/08/2009 5:47:13 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Although the meeting was considerably smaller than the official gathering of 15,000 people meeting down the road, the organisers claimed it could change the course of negotiations."
We shall see. How bad do the world's greatest banks want to make a huge profit for doing nothing over the next ten years or so. Of course those in the UN must fall in line if someone of absolute power tells them to simply back off for a few years. And those who represent given nations say, zero, will simply fall in line, have their speech writers hand them plan B, to voice their crapola during the conference.
19 posted on 12/08/2009 6:01:12 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

We experience enormous climate change just today as the temperature swung wildly from 30 degrees to 60 degrees.


20 posted on 12/08/2009 6:09:55 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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