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1 posted on 12/20/2009 2:40:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Oil Without Dinosaurs ?

The familiar tale is that “Prehistoric plants died and changed into oil and gas while sandwiched between layers of rock in the hot, high-pressure environment deep below Earth’s surface.”

The debunking in this Nov. 6 article actually “un-debunks” an old idea from the 19th century that methane and other hydrocarbons might be produced abiotically, without fossil fuels.

Long-held beliefs such as these are being overturned, after being held as “scientific truth” for decades or centuries.

Which brings up an interesting question -— How do we know that today’s current dogmas are invulnerable to turnarounds? A future discovery might even debunk the debunkers in these stories – some of whom debunked earlier debunkers.


2 posted on 12/20/2009 2:43:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Condemned civilization grasping at straws.


3 posted on 12/20/2009 2:45:23 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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Kill them kill them all. Who are they?


4 posted on 12/20/2009 2:46:02 PM PST by allmost
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Oil: The new renewable energy source.


5 posted on 12/20/2009 2:46:31 PM PST by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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“The new study describes a test of that idea, which dates to at least 1877 and famous Russian chemist Dimitri Mendeelev.”

An nobody looked at this again until now? What are we spending our research dollars on the mating positions
of horses?


7 posted on 12/20/2009 2:47:21 PM PST by Dem Guard
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How did dinosaurs get to Jupiter to make their methane seas?


10 posted on 12/20/2009 2:58:14 PM PST by blackminorca
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I have been thinking this for the last year or so, after reading about it on FR.....

It is not dinosaur dung, where the heck were they roaming off the coast of Brazil 5 to 7 miles down.

12 posted on 12/20/2009 3:02:20 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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Actually this is a pretty viable theory. The Russians have developed several deep fields. Rotting dinosaurs can maybe explain some oil, but is an absurd theory for oil under several thousand feet of rock.

BP recently hit a major pool about 200 miles off Houston, in the gulf, beneath 2000 feet of water and something like 12,000 feet of Gulf seafloor. No way to explain how old dinosaurs and rotting swampgrass got there.

The major support for the dinosaur theory may simply be that it permits the “peak oil” crisis, much like the “global warming” crisis. In other words a rationale for the government controlling energy because “it is running out.”

Maybe the end of oil is a variation on Algore theology.


13 posted on 12/20/2009 3:04:27 PM PST by LoneStarC (1)
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Actually this is a pretty viable theory. The Russians have developed several deep fields. Rotting dinosaurs can maybe explain some oil, but is an absurd theory for oil under several thousand feet of rock.

BP recently hit a major pool about 200 miles off Houston, in the gulf, beneath 2000 feet of water and something like 12,000 feet of Gulf seafloor. No way to explain how old dinosaurs and rotting swampgrass got there.

The major support for the dinosaur theory may simply be that it permits the “peak oil” crisis, much like the “global warming” crisis. In other words a rationale for the government controlling energy because “it is running out.”

Maybe the end of oil is a variation on Algore theology.


14 posted on 12/20/2009 3:04:35 PM PST by LoneStarC (1)
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That would put in serious doubt "Peak Oil"

15 posted on 12/20/2009 3:05:49 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Surely the science is settled and the debate is over! /SARC

There is a process whereby a types of bacteria called methanogens can synthesize methane using C02 and H2 underground.

16 posted on 12/20/2009 3:19:28 PM PST by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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btt


18 posted on 12/20/2009 3:24:04 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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The darkest secret of hidden science: Oil is like geothermal heat: As long as the Earth is tectonically active, we'll have it.

It's free. And effectively eternal.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

23 posted on 12/20/2009 3:32:33 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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Ahh gives tear to ones eye

Methane co2 water oil one massive green renewable energy cycle


26 posted on 12/20/2009 3:38:52 PM PST by Flavius
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I had a discussion with a friend, who is a Geophysisist for Phillips Petroleum, regarding the possibility that petroleum deposits where not organic in origin, thus a much larger and renewable resource. He was open to the possibility, but had not seen enough evidence to support the theory. The context of our discussion was that if petroleum did not have to come from an organic source, could their possibly be petroleum resources on other planets, like Mars. If petroleum deposits could be found, recovered and refined on Mars, it makes Mars a much easier place to colonize, since you don’t have to take all your return trip fuel with you from Earth. Imagine having the gas station franchise there. ;)


30 posted on 12/20/2009 3:41:53 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 12/20/2009 4:01:46 PM PST by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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The biotic oil theory was needed because no one can explain how a flaming ball of fire could cool down and still contain carbon in the form of oil and gas. It is a necessary theory if you do not believe in a created earth. Perhaps God decided to add oil and gas to facilitate plate tectonics. In any case, the fossil fuel theory evokes scarcity. However, proven reserves keep growing the more that they look. Abiotic oil does not need a theory of origin. Only those who cannot believe that God created this earth perfectly formed need such a theory.


36 posted on 12/20/2009 5:09:23 PM PST by EscondidoSurfer
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*ping*

Science Daily article with potential ramifications upon geopolitics.

43 posted on 12/20/2009 7:10:29 PM PST by hennie pennie
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Related:Saturn’s orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA’s Cassini spacecraft.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2397009/posts


45 posted on 12/20/2009 8:49:49 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Perfection is the enemy of Good.)
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bttt


55 posted on 08/09/2010 10:53:46 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five business worries of the Amercan Farmer for the past 50 years)
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