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Texas Budget Mess Now as Bad as California's
The Texas Observer ^ | 07/08/2010 | Dave Mann

Posted on 08/01/2010 9:37:44 AM PDT by dragnet2

It’s come to this: The Texas budget outlook has become so bleak that we’re comparing rather favorably to the one state where balanced budgeting goes to die.

People, our budget deficit is now as bad as California’s.

That fact may not sit well with some people—especially in the governor’s office, which loves to bash California and never misses an opportunity to point out how Texas’ low-tax, business-friendly model has led to a more robust economy and sound state finances.

When California faced a $60 billion deficit last year—a shortfall that was bigger than the entire budget of most states—you could almost hear the chortling from the Texas governor’s office. It seemed a handy example of what happens when you put big-spending liberals in charge.

It wasn’t that simple, though. The causes of California’s problems—and Texas’ lack thereof—were varied and complex. And now the states’ budget deficits are looking very similar.

Texas: $18 billion shortfall (estimated) or about 20 percent of state spending.

California: $19.1 billion shortfall (official estimate) or about 20 percent of state spending.

The numbers match up pretty neatly.

You can read a breakdown of California’s proposed budget for next year here.

The days when Texas leaders could mock California—or at least its budget mess—appear to be over.

(Excerpt) Read more at texasobserver.org ...


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To: Sarajevo
My property taxes were doubled this year! I think we Texans need to start chopping the fat from the educational system that is feeding off of us, and drop a lot of entitlements.

I suggest ya drive by your schools you're being forced to pay more and more for, and see for yourself who these students are...I'd bet 65 percent of them are children of illegal aliens.

41 posted on 08/01/2010 10:48:06 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: cranked
If illegal immigration costs AZ roughly $1.3 billion a year, what is it costing TX?

"...the costs of illegal immigration are often greater than current, crippling budget deficits. In Texas, for example, the additional cost of immigration, $16.4 billion, is equal to the state’s current budget deficit; in California the additional cost of illegal immigration, $21.8 billion, is $8 billion more than the state’s current budget deficit of $13.8 billion" (From this article.)

A while back I saw a state-by-state breakdown of illegal-alien costs compared with budget deficits on the Fox News, but I can't seem to find it now. If memory serves, though, many (if not most) states would be back in the black if not for the Mexican Invasion.
42 posted on 08/01/2010 10:49:49 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: dragnet2

have a link handy?


43 posted on 08/01/2010 10:53:21 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: dragnet2

This article is such a load of horsesh*t and so is the FW Star Telegram article. You can read about how Texas addresses its budget here:

http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

Our Texas Constitution requires a balanced budget. It’s not a recommendation. It’s a requirement. We have a $9B rainy day fund that can be used with the approval of the legislature. Any “projected” spending over “projected” revenue requires the approval of 4/5 of our legislature. It ain’t gonna happen. We’ll cut, cut, cut until the “projected” budget is balanced.

We are nowhere near having the financial problems that California has. Nowhere. Not. Even. Close.


44 posted on 08/01/2010 11:01:17 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: dragnet2

As Rush has stated, there are no longer newspapers that report the news. There are only propaganda distributors pretending to be newspapers.


45 posted on 08/01/2010 11:03:34 AM PDT by Helen
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To: LearsFool

State Budget Gaps vs. State and Local Outlays for
Illegal Immigration 2009:

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Cost_Study_2010_Budget_Gaps_vs_Costs.pdf


46 posted on 08/01/2010 11:08:13 AM PDT by trueamerica
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To: hopespringseternal
Texas is nothing like California. This is just fodder for White and the income tax crowd.

Exactly. We require a balanced budget and we'll do what it takes to balance it, including allowing casinos and more tax holidays to generate revenue. This article is horsesh*t.

Promoting an income tax in Texas should be grounds for deportation.

Nah. Just get a rope!

47 posted on 08/01/2010 11:10:44 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: trueamerica
Thank you!

Sheesh, California would have a two billion dollar surplus if not for the Mexican Invasion!
48 posted on 08/01/2010 11:18:09 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Peanut Gallery
Let’s do something really radical... Let’s privatize education.

I'm certainly with you on it, and have advocated it before. There is an obstacle however, as I have been doing my research on this. Every state constitution I have looked at so far makes it very difficult to privatize public schools. What needs to happen first is ballot initiatives to make the state constitutions clear that privatizing the schools is permitted.

49 posted on 08/01/2010 11:28:04 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: dragnet2

Cut spending - what most Americans do when income shrinks, why not government? You could fire 25% of the state Democratic apparatchiks in Austin and never miss a single one of them.

Lower taxes - attract and encourage business expansion and relocation, get more people employed = more revenue

Control borders - why are we paying tax $$$$ for free handouts and to incarcerate millions of illegals? If they are unwilling to obey the laws of entry, what makes anyone think they will respect any laws? Ship them home!

Drill baby drill! - Screw Obama’s tyrannical moratorium and let the environazis scream like the pansies they are. Create jobs, taxes and wealth with the resources God gave us. To borrow and adapt a phrase used during the Texas revolution, Come and stop us!

Do those four things and that shortfall vanishes quickly and unemployment ceases to be an issue. There is a much better chance of that happening here than in California and Washington. Its really not that difficult.

BTW - If Texas is as bad as California, why do I see so many Californians and blue state yankees moving to Texas right now?


50 posted on 08/01/2010 11:28:24 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: LearsFool

I appreciate the info


51 posted on 08/01/2010 11:55:49 AM PDT by cranked
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To: olrtex

You got to be kidding. The budget been meet every year with gimmicks. Reality is here.


52 posted on 08/01/2010 11:56:17 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: paul51
have a link handy?

I just happen to have one...

70% of the Women Who Gave Birth at Parkland Hospital in Dallas Are Illegals

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2532703/posts

53 posted on 08/01/2010 12:06:44 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Orange1998
The budget been meet every year with gimmicks. Reality is here.

The gimmicks will eventually run out, then suddenly, it will be a budget crisis, and meltdown....

54 posted on 08/01/2010 12:08:45 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: olrtex

You hit the nail on the head. This is an old article - weeks old - from a lefty paper; they use our two year budget compared to a one year in Cal...until late in the article they tell the facts of 2 vs.1. Besides Tx has been having across the board spending cuts of 5% and then 10% for the past two years to stay in budget.


55 posted on 08/01/2010 12:22:15 PM PDT by q_an_a (a)
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To: Kandy Atz

We are nowhere near having the budget problems that California has. When the legislature meets in 2011 to prepare the budget for September 2011 - August 2012 and September 2012 - August 2013, they are required by law to balance the budget. Any “projected” spending above “projected” revenue must be approved by 4/5 of the legislature, which ain’t gonna happen, and Gov. Perry has a line-item veto. This article is pure horsesh*t. We will do what is necessary to cut spending and generate revenue so we can balance the budget. We haven’t yet begun to exhaust our options. We can use the $9b rainy-day fund, create more tax holidays to generate revenue, allow gambling, and other such things. We’re not even to the point of considering the legalization and taxation of marijuana. So we’re far from California’s budget troubles.


56 posted on 08/01/2010 12:22:57 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Moonman62
Sorry Pancho, you are wrong amigo. I have my “It’s A Long Way to Guacamole” cookbook and I can cook Tex-Mex. :)
57 posted on 08/01/2010 12:28:22 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Republic of Texas

As my state Rep. told us a month or so back, one thing we have in common is that nearly 200,000 Californians are moving to Texas every month!

They move here looking for work, but they seem to neglect to leave the political baggage in Cal.


58 posted on 08/01/2010 12:46:02 PM PDT by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: q_an_a; olrtex; BuckeyeTexan

“This is an old article - weeks old”

LOL!

Here is yet another article from yet another source in Texas...

Texas: 2011 Budget Shortfall (How the state fell into a hole)

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-taxes/2011-budget-shortfall/


59 posted on 08/01/2010 12:48:41 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Texas budget shortfall widens to $18 billion

Straus mentioned a number of possibilities for lawmakers to consider

including having unpaid furloughs for state employees

moving to a four-day workweek

freezing top-level state salaries

gas taxes and imposing a moratorium on proposed new programs

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/05/11/2182263/texas-budget-shortfall-widens.html

((Sound familiar?))


60 posted on 08/01/2010 12:54:48 PM PDT by dragnet2
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