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1 posted on 08/09/2010 11:25:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Oil is a renewable energy source?


2 posted on 08/09/2010 11:28:16 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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Abiotic Synthesis Of Methane: New Evidence Supports 19th-Century Idea On Formation Of Oil

posted on FR Sun 20 Dec 2009 02:40:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Also a proponent of Peak Oil :Matt Simmons Has Died

5 posted on 08/09/2010 11:31:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Haven’t some scientists, especially those from Russia, been saying this for years?


6 posted on 08/09/2010 11:31:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pin up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

—check out “Thomas Gold”—


7 posted on 08/09/2010 11:31:42 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Many of us believe the abiotic oil theory.


9 posted on 08/09/2010 11:32:22 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The russians/ukranians have never bought the fossil fuel explanation for oil and posited the deep earth natural process instead. The problem with the fossil fuel theory is how does all this plant matter die, but not decay, and then find itself under enormous pressure to turn to oil? Pretty much anything that dies ultimately decays long before it could be preserved in mud or earth. The rate of top soil rich in dead plant matter being consumed to inner earth seems a bit far fetched.


11 posted on 08/09/2010 11:33:17 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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The hydrocarbon products did not change for many hours, but the tell-tale chemical signatures began to fade after a few days.

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Does that mean this was an unstable reaction and would not result in accumulation of heavier products?

12 posted on 08/09/2010 11:33:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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We were discussing this hypothesis in my high school geology class 35 years ago! Well, the was when they taught ideas and not feelings.


13 posted on 08/09/2010 11:34:35 AM PDT by j.argese (Liberal thought process = oxymoron)
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Makes one wonder if somewhere in the future, those who contended that oil came from organic matter decomposed over time will be looked upon like flat-earthers are now.


16 posted on 08/09/2010 11:39:25 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (My problem with aging is I tend to forget things. Also, I've found that I tend to forget things.)
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Time for the geologists of the world to man up, admit that Thomas Gold was right all along, and give him the posthumous apology that he deserves.


17 posted on 08/09/2010 11:40:23 AM PDT by jpl (It's "My Big Fat Deadly Greek Riot", coming soon to a bankrupt socialist state near you.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Unless it’s changed, they’ve never been conclusive how oil was formed. Just a theory how it does. I’ve always thought there was a chance oil was “renewable”. Maybe they are coming close to this realization...the subject is interesting nonetheless.


18 posted on 08/09/2010 11:40:29 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Drill, Baby, Drill.


19 posted on 08/09/2010 11:42:29 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pressure (P) is energy: Newtons/sq.meter (P) is the same as Joules/cu.meter (E).

Given sufficient energy virtually any molecular transformation is thermodynamically possible.

And indeed gravitationally or thermally produced Pressure, through various contrivances can be harnessed for Free Energy (A).

We haven't even begun to touch the possibilities.

Except that the truly ugly Left, politicians, desperately need to manipulate others to confirm their own sad identity. That is how we view for example Elena Kagan, Obama, etc. and no other way.

Johnny Suntrade

22 posted on 08/09/2010 11:46:06 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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This experiment seems a lot like that “a lighting strike in the primordial soup can create something like an amino acide” which was pretty much taken to mean life on Earth was an accident of nature.

But again, that expirement and theory was politcally palatable, while naturally occuring oil would upset quite a few applecarts.


23 posted on 08/09/2010 11:48:09 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Finite or Infinite?
A lot more money to be made when something is finite...


24 posted on 08/09/2010 11:49:00 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Titan proves the abiotic theory rather succinctly.
28 posted on 08/09/2010 11:51:05 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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The Russian scientists have been on this idea of abiotic oil generation a lot longer than people in the west.

It sort of makes sense, in a way.

The Russians’ culture was atheistic and assumed God did not exist.

Western scientists’ work was biased in that they were in a culture that was very theistic and they like to rebel against that.

Dinosaurs from millions of years ago making oil is better to use when pointing and laughing at “fundies” than saying “oil is created through natural processes in the earth”.


40 posted on 08/09/2010 12:13:22 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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Does anybody have a copy of the map correlating deep impact astroid strikes and the corresponding proven oil reserves.

When I saw that map there was no mention of abiotic oil formation but it would sure explain the correlation.


41 posted on 08/09/2010 12:13:22 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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I never bought that dinosaur and plant BS. There has never been enough of those to make the amount of oil we have. Coal is different. It’s relatively shallow and you can see the fossils in it. Nobody ever explained how all that oil got way down there..........


44 posted on 08/09/2010 12:22:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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dynos don’t make oil!


52 posted on 08/09/2010 12:37:24 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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