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Why More People Need to Know Basic Islamic Doctrine
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Posted on 11/03/2010 2:38:40 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

A GOOD FRIEND of mine told me the other day that our efforts to educate our fellow non-Muslims about the doctrines of Islam are counterproductive because it creates animosity against Muslims, which causes apathetic Muslims to side with the more devout, politically-active Muslims, leading to greater conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims.

This has a ring of validity to it. But at its core it is a foolish idea. The problem is, you would only know how foolish it is if you knew something about Islamic doctrine. In our educational efforts, this is the biggest thing we are up against: Assumptions made by non-Muslims who are ignorant of Islamic doctrine — assumptions that prevent you from educating them about Islamic doctrine. It's a catch-22.

Many of them make the following assumptions: That politically-active Muslims are acting out of political motivations rather than Islamic religious motivations; that they cherry-pick verses out of the Quran to justify their actions but Islam is not what motivates them; that the majority of Muslims don't believe any of that jihad stuff; that the majority of Muslims have no political motivations; and that anyone criticizing Islam must be an ignorant bigot. These assumptions all conspire to make it almost impossible to do the only thing that can clear up these misconceptions: Educate them about basic Islamic doctrine.

So I thought I would make a list of specific reasons why an understanding of Islamic doctrine is important. This might add a little extra motivation to listen, and help us overcome the catch-22. Here's my list so far:

1. The US allowed Sharia law to be inserted into the constitutions of Iran and Afghanistan. If any non-Muslims involved in that decision had been familiar with Islamic doctrine enough to know what Sharia law means and what it entails, they would not have allowed it to happen. So billions of dollars have been spent to free those two countries from the domination of their previous repressive governments, and thousands of soldiers from Western democracies have died, only to have set up the conditions for the creation of two more Islamic countries. And anyone who knows anything about Islamic doctrine can tell you this will inevitably lead to countries increasingly dominated by misogyny, religious intolerance, and aggression against the non-Muslim world. It was one of the most awe-inspiring, mind-blowing, remarkably self-defeating actions done by any non-Muslims in recent history.

And the only reason it happened is that the non-Muslims involved were ignorant of the basic doctrines of Islam.

2. In the free world, politically active Muslims are are pushing for concessions of all kinds. In Britain, Muslim women doctors and nurses do not have to follow the same cleanliness standards as non-Muslims, for example. In Hamtramck, Michigan, the City Council waved the noise ordinances in deference to the mosque there to allow them to broadcast an amplified call to prayer throughout the neighborhood. After a Dutch newspaper published some cartoons depicting Mohammad — nothing more offensive than politicians suffer every day all over the free world — Muslims rioted all over Europe, killing 187 people. Afterward, many newspapers refused to reprint the cartoons out of fear. They were intimidated into silence by Muslims. And so on (read more concessions).

These concessions would not have been given if the non-Muslims involved had known about basic Islamic doctrine.

You can't see the purpose of the political concessions unless you know Islam. People naturally buy into the specific reasons given for each specific concession and easily miss any larger purpose. Politically-active orthodox Muslims will continue to encroach on Western laws and customs, concession by concession, until they become a political force that cannot be easily resisted. They will have gained a level of political power that cannot be peacefully undone. They will have gained a sufficient foothold in the society, producing new Islamic norms, getting non-Muslims used to these things, until everyone feels "it's just the way things are." Islam is a ratchet.

The purpose of each concession is to fulfill Islam's prime directive: To make the whole world subjugated to Islamic law. If you don't know that, or if you don't believe that, you will take it on a case-by-case basis, and they will gain one concession after another.

The orthodox Muslims in the West, working for Islam's political goal, know how to play the game. They know what our buttons are. They know our Achilles' heel: White guilt (as it is known in America) or post-colonial guilt (as it is known in Europe). And they exploit it. They exploit this and many other psychological weaknesses in the Western mind, and gain one concession after another.

We have not had much historical exposure to Islamic ways of doing things, so we have no natural resistance. It's like introducing rabbits into Australia or mongoose into Hawaii. The other forms of life don't have time to adapt, so the new animals easily proliferate and ultimately dominate.

3. They keep having peace talks and peace summits and peace treaties to create "peace in the Middle East," meaning "peace between Israel and the Muslim countries surrounding Israel." Only someone ignorant of the most basic principles of Islamic doctrine of would believe that anything approaching peace will ever be possible between Israel and the rest of the Muslim world. With no more than six hours of education about basic Islamic doctrine, any rational person would easily see that the goal is ridiculous.

But only someone who knows about Islamic doctrine could understand this. The non-Muslim world should be working toward security, not peace. Read the Quran and you will find there is no possible way for peace to exist between Israel and in the Muslim world. It is impossible.

There are obviously some Muslims who ignore much of their doctrine and who can live and let live with Israel. But as long as there are believing Muslims in the Middle East, Israel will be attacked. And all these efforts at disarming Israel or forcing Israel to make concessions to Muslims only prolongs the conflict.

This is another example of how it helps us defeat Islam's relentless encroachment to know the basic doctrines of Islam. It illustrates why an ignorance of Islam prolongs problems, weakens the position of non-Muslims, weakens the security of non-Muslims, causes the deaths of non-Muslims, and strengthens Islam's political power in the world.

4. The population of Muslims in Europe has grown large enough already that the politicians in Europe can no longer ignore the voting block represented by the Muslims, and they are working together (the Muslims and the politicians) to slowly dismantle, piece by piece, the hard-won freedoms, the principles of equality, and the economic viability of Europe's democracies.

And yet Europe is continuing to allow Muslims to immigrate to their countries in great numbers.

Why is Europe continuing such self-defeating policies? Because so many Europeans are so ignorant of basic Islamic doctrine.

5. Mosques are being built all over the free world. Non-Muslims allow this. In these mosques, Muslims are being taught that their loyalty to Islam is more important than their loyalty to the country in which they are citizens. They are being taught that the ultimate goal is an Islamic world. The ultimate goal is that all people on earth are subjugated to Islamic law. They are taught strategies to accomplish this goal. They are motivated to accomplish this goal in those mosques. They are given literature — books, magazines, and audio recordings — that teach these notions and motivate them to follow these notions.

This is happening in 75% of the mosques in America, and 80% of the mosques in Canada. It's probably being done similarly in the mosques of Europe.

Non-Muslims are allowing this because they are so ignorant of basic Islam that they unquestioningly accept the deliberate disinformation being given to them by orthodox Muslims. They are being fooled. They are being hoodwinked by orthodox Muslims with a political agenda.

The examples above barely scratch the surface. The list could go on and on. I'd be the first to admit that learning about Islam is not fun or easy. But it clears up a lot of false assumptions and greatly clarifies our situation. It allows you to look into the world and really see the forest for the trees.

We are being invaded. We are being colonized. And we are helping this happen. We are actively helping the invasion and colonization of free countries by politically-motivated Islamic supremacists. And the only reason we are not stopping it is that so many of us are so completely ignorant of basic Islamic doctrine.


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1 posted on 11/03/2010 2:38:42 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Thank you, but you can pass my portion on to someone else.


2 posted on 11/03/2010 2:48:18 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I learned everything I needed to know about islam on 9-11-2001. All I know now is that islam is evil.

Not a whit has changed.


3 posted on 11/03/2010 2:50:47 PM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Actually, people DO need to know more about Islam - a lot more.

Right now the liberals and media-idiots manage to stick their heads in the sand about the “details” of the subject. The more that the average American knows about this fruitcake religion, the sooner it will be rejected!


4 posted on 11/03/2010 2:55:14 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Any doctrine of group activities that accepts the violation of natural rights and the initiation of force is a doctrine of mob rule, and is not justified by mysticism, and should not be tolerated in any free society with a just government.


5 posted on 11/03/2010 2:55:15 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Learn the Truth about Islam
6 posted on 11/03/2010 2:57:25 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

This was posted rescently
Take a good look at sharia law

http://www.truthtube.tv/search.php?keyword=beheading&type=videos


7 posted on 11/03/2010 3:06:28 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (The tides coming in)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Good synopsis of why Islam is a real threat to freedom all over the world but especially to the developed western nations. Unfortunately, the anti-American left is working hard to obscure and deflect the threat of Islam and American's natural tolerance of religion often precludes their recognizing that very real threat. The good news is that most conservatives do recognize the threat to freedom Islam poses and are alert to attempts to foster Islamic presumptions on our country, i.e. the 'Ground Zero' mosque. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
8 posted on 11/03/2010 3:08:08 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Cautious optimist)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
How friggin' dare you assume that I want to know anything more about your raping, child molesting, backwards / out dated cult.

Now go take a bath in pig fat, you POS.

And bring the big ham head - mo HAM head - with ya.

The only "education" that will occur here will be from Mr. 308. You understand me, you slime?

9 posted on 11/03/2010 3:09:13 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (What's up with the towel on the head? - 'Ima Target')
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I'm a protestant, American. Why in the hell do I care about anything at all to do with islam. As a matter of fact, I don't even consider it a religion...it's a cult.

But in the interest of fairness, I also am not interested in learning Jewish Doctrine, Catholic Doctrine, LDS Doctrine, Buddist Doctrine, or the names of the seven dwarfs.

I don't know why we get doused with this islamic nonsense day after day from the media. I learned all I ever want to know about muslims on 9/11.

And yes, I AM being intolerant, not out of hate, but because I have long-since chosen my religion and my belief system and I'm just not freakin' interested in yours or any others...period. I don't answer the door for Jehovah witnesses and I have no use for a koran.


islam question


10 posted on 11/03/2010 3:11:07 PM PDT by FrankR (November 2nd is NOT an election - it's a RESTRAINING ORDER.....VOTE!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I knew all I needed to know on 9/11.


11 posted on 11/03/2010 3:11:49 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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12 posted on 11/03/2010 3:15:22 PM PDT by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: FrankR

It’s exactly people with your attitude that will allow islam to overcome America. Using your flawed logic, we should have ignored Nazism and Shintoism in WII. WAKE UP MAN!


13 posted on 11/03/2010 3:19:00 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe
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To: Iam1ru1-2
FIRST, you need to know the rule of Interpretation of the Koran. If there are conflicting verses, THE LAST ONE IS AUTHORITATIVE.

Thus the verses about being at peace with unbelievers are UNDONE by the later ones to Kill the Unbelievers.

Do you need to know any more?

14 posted on 11/03/2010 3:36:18 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Iam1ru1-2

http://www.greek-genocide.org/index1.html


15 posted on 11/03/2010 3:39:02 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (My grandparents taught me all I needed to know about Islam.)
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To: MikeSteelBe
May 31, 2010

Wake up to YOUR beliefs...no thanks...wash your feed and get your prayer rug ready...it's almost time for your call to prayer....
16 posted on 11/03/2010 3:45:58 PM PDT by FrankR (November 2nd is NOT an election - it's a RESTRAINING ORDER.....VOTE!)
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To: FrankR

How can we fight the enemy, unless we know the enemy. The more we as a country know about Islam, the more resolute we should become in fighting it.

We aren’t at war with Jews, Catholics, LDS’, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.

We aren’t “technically” at war with Islam either. Doesn’t mean they aren’t at war with us.


17 posted on 11/03/2010 3:47:15 PM PDT by CherylBower (Fire the liars)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Yup. Just as focusing on Al-Qaeda alone as offensively Muslim is a mistake, focusing on the Koran alone is an even bigger mistake.

The Koran is only 14% of the written word that rules and inspires Muslim daily life. The majority of Islamic doctrine on war, punishment, etc is in the Siras and the Hadiths, and they are the triumvirate pillars of Islam completely unrecognized by our politicians in general, out govt. and most of Western Culture...at our existential peril.

Some useful links:

http://cspipublishing.com/statistical/index.html This one has SEMINAL info on the Trilogy of the Koran, Siras, Hadith, completely analyzed. Part one shows the very small contribution to understatnding Islam and its political and cultural behavior that the Koran alone makes!!

Other links among hundreds that allow one to follow Islam’s almost unimpeded advancement into the cultures of the West while we chase a tiny part of Islam’s offensive.

A few other links with daily and other information:

www.jihadwatch.org

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2671

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://bigpeace.com/teamb/2010/10/27/muslim-brotherhood-penetration-of-the-us-government-a-case-study/


18 posted on 11/03/2010 3:47:19 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: FrankR

I certainly agree on the fact of not converting, whosoever knows what he believes has no problem with somehow becoming converted to a religion. But where my genuine disagreement comes regarding the issue of Islam is far more about how rediculously imbalanced and deserving of criticism our politicians are when they speak of it. I feel that Obama’s statements are exaggerations, and in some cases lies. Don’t get me wrong, this is far from being my only disagreement with him, but the REAL PROBLEM is with the favoritism that European and American politicians have shown to Muslims in the past few years more than Muslims themselves.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 3:48:04 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: CherylBower
I don't have to know the enemies doctrine to know that I will fight against it. I know my religion and that's all I need to know.

I don't know what causes cancer, but I am against it, and if I get it I will find out enough about it to fight it, but I don't have to be a doctor or an internist to fight it.

If only somem of America's bleeding hearts would use some of this "know your enemy" sentiment to take a good look at the progressive movement trying to ruin our military and economy and open the doors wide open to the islamics, then we wouldn't feel the need to memorize the koran to fight against a 10th century religion (cult).

Now you and the other guy decide to bust my chops because I stated how I feel about islam. I do know quite a bit about it, but the original article was telling me I need to study it some more, and I say hell no. I have that right and that freedom.

As you can surmise, I do have accesss to the internet, a county library, and have been on FR since 1998, so there is not too much about islam that escapes my attention, so I think I'll be up on it enough to protect myself and join in the fight, but I'm not going to STUDY it.

Now for all I know you and Mr. Steele might be on a recruiting mission for allah, and I am done with this conversation. One of the ways I try to fight it is to not have discussions about it with its promoters.

Have a nice day.
20 posted on 11/03/2010 4:05:05 PM PDT by FrankR (November 2nd is NOT an election - it's a RESTRAINING ORDER.....VOTE!)
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