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To: Kaslin; wardaddy; Kenny Bunk; Travis McGee

“The House version of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by only 61 percent of that Chamber’s Democrats versus 80 percent of the Republicans.
More importantly, it was Republicans that ended a Democrat filibuster preventing a vote on this bill in the Senate. 82 percent of Republicans voted for cloture versus 66 percent of Democrats.
In the final Senate vote on the Act, 82 percent of Republicans voted “Aye” versus 69 percent of Democrats.”

This is a fool’s game. The Democratic and Republican parties of 1964 were much different than they are today.

The GOP was dominated by its liberal wing which actively worked to defeat Barry Goldwater. Goldwater voted against those bills. Those bills were pushed by the likes of Rockefeller, Javits, Mathias, Brooke, Case, Scranton, Percy, George Romney.

The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats. They were a major portion of “the conservative coalition” which ruled Congress from the late 1930s on and had played a major role in frustrating FDR’s New Deal.

But apparently today all that counts is party designation, and if that obscures the past well we will just go with the myth over the facts.


15 posted on 10/09/2011 6:37:33 PM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Pelham

OK. Someone who knows what they are talking about.


19 posted on 10/09/2011 7:03:39 PM PDT by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: Pelham; Travis McGee; Jack Black; Black Agnes; Twink; stainlessbanner; central_va

plenty of freepers including some potent (and literary)ones and most GOP pundits are either ignorant of the truth of that era or willfully ignore how times actually were and parse a PC on race view

Beck and Hannity are worst offenders of folks we think of as conservative..all the Neos talk the party line stuff...Coulter, Will, WSJ folks, and so forth

Rush next..and I like Rush and know he knows better but he got McNabbed publicly and has Snerdly staring him in the face..so..there u are

then Levin...another one I like to he goes anti Southern on me...sometimes I think Levin wants to be frank but his Republicanism holds him back

only Savage actually calls it like it was on that 60s race legislation and notable figures from then

did I leave anyone out?

You pretty much have to go to sites not welcome here to get a realspeak view of CRA, VRA and so forth that many glowingly attribute as GOP “successes” blussfully ignorant that those acts killed American culture..likely forver

Most folks who post here would never figure Reagan, Buckley and Goldwater agreed more with John Stennis or Strom Thurmond back then than they did many of their fellow GOP folks...


24 posted on 10/09/2011 10:31:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: Pelham
The GOP was dominated by its liberal wing which actively worked to defeat Barry Goldwater.

The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats.

Goldwater voted against those bills.

So-o-o-o....why didn't Goldwater run as a DemocRAT?

28 posted on 10/10/2011 4:54:51 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham
The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats. They were a major portion of “the conservative coalition” which ruled Congress from the late 1930s on and had played a major role in frustrating FDR’s New Deal.

Ah. Makes perfect sense.

So. How's it going down there on Occupy Wall Street? I've been wondering. Where do you guys go to the bathroom? Oh, wait. Is this you?


29 posted on 10/10/2011 4:58:40 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham; Kaslin
Ah, yes. DemocRATS were SO Conservative back then that they were able to "frustrate" FDR's New Deal, but, by golly, by gum, it got through anyways.

As did Socialist Security. As did LBJ's Great Society, MediCare, War On Poverty. And virtually every other drain on America's economic system that we are dealing with today.

Perhaps what has changed is the definition of "Conservatism". What we know as Conservatism today didn't even really exist back then. It was William F. Buckley, Jr, William Rusher and a few others who brought forth the ideology we know as Conservatism today.

30 posted on 10/10/2011 5:10:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham; Kaslin; wardaddy; Travis McGee; Jack Black; Black Agnes; Twink; stainlessbanner; ...
It's a sad damn day when one's political party's major philosophers, some of whom to put it charitably, have very sketchy educations, are former DJ's whose priorities are actually selling storm doors and gold bars.

Remember back when there was a valid constitutional question about El Máximo's constitutional eligibility to run for and serve President? Where were they then? Selling Computer Back-up Software, Storm Doors, Gold Bars, etc. That's where.

One guy even wrote a book about the Constitution ... and managed to ignore Article II. Since he also wrote a book about his dog, am I to assume that his dog ate Article II?

33 posted on 10/10/2011 7:01:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Team Obama will not shrink from violence to remain in power. Be ready.)
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