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Ted Cruz: Leave same-sex marriage up to the states
Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, February 11, 2015 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 02/11/2015 10:19:49 AM PST by SoConPubbie

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"having hit a critical mass of states that have recognized same-sex marriage..." Mr Obama said

Huh? Actually, there's more states that have banned gay marriage than those that have approved it. I count 16 that have specifically allowed it, 30 that specifically are 1man/1woman, and 4 that are 1man/1woman by statute but not Constitution. Federal judiciary tyranny doesn't count as a pro-homo state!

States that Approve:

Via popular vote:
- Maryland. (By legislation first, then pop vote.)
- Maine. (By legislation, then overturned by pop vote in 2009, then pop vote approving it in 2012.)
- Washington. (By legislation, then referendum by pop vote approves.)

Via State legislatures, no popular vote:
- Vermont. (legislature overrides veto by gov.)
- New Hampshire. (Bill passed in 2010, repeal in 2012 fails.)
- New York.
- Delaware.
- Rhode Island.
- Minnesota. (Voters reject a Const. amendment defining as 1man/1woman by 51%, then legislature passes gay marriage.)
- Hawaii. ('98, voters approve Const. amend allowing the legislature to ban gay marriage, Leg does. In 2013 Leg reverses and allows it. )
- Illinois.

Via courts:
- Massachusetts. (State SC rules ban is unConst.)
- Connecticut. (State SC rules gays can wed.)
- Iowa. (State SC overturns law banning gay marriage.)
- New Jersey. (Leg bill vetoed, then state judge says it's legal. State SC declines to step in.)
- New Mexico. (No laws either way, but State SC affirms 'right' in 2013)

States that have Const. bans/1man-1woman:

- California. (Prop 22 in 2000 bans gay marriage in state law. Const 1man/1woman [Prop 8] overturned by Federal courts in 2013.)
- Alaska. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Nebraska.
- Nevada. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Arkansas.
- Georgia.
- Kentucky.
- Louisiana.
- Michigan.
- Mississippi.
- Missouri.
- Montana. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- North Dakota.
- Ohio.
- Oklahoma. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Oregon. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Utah. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Kansas. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Texas.
- Alabama. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Colorado. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Idaho. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- South Carolina. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- South Dakota.
- Tennessee.
- Virginia. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Wisconsin. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Arizona. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Florida. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- North Carolina. (Overturned by Fed judge.)

States with statute for 1man/1woman, but no Const. article:

- Wyoming. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Pennsylvania. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- West Virginia. (Overturned by Fed judge.)
- Indiana. (Overturned by Fed judge.)


PEW time line by state <-- Pretty comprehensive.
Quick reference guide
21 posted on 02/11/2015 1:25:26 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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Nice lists. Here is one from the lowly Wikipedia on when states passed marriage amendments and how much they passed or failed by. It doesn’t have everything like CA’s prop.22 which passed by 61% in 2000 but it has prop. 8 which passed by 52%. So you can see CA lost around 9% on the issue in 8 years, and 2012 North Carolina (61%) was where 2000 CA was on the issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_constitutional_amendments_banning_same-sex_unions

FReegards


22 posted on 02/11/2015 3:17:21 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Amendment10
But we’re not hearing anybody in corrupt DC mention 10A because, despite RINOs now controlling Congress, it is still one of the best-kept secrets in DC.

I think the reason we're not hearing a 10A argument here is because parties who have challenged state marriage laws have skirted the 10A issue. No one (on either side) disputes that the states (and not the feds) have the power to regulate marriage. But, at the same time, no one (on either side) disputes that the states may not regulate marriage (or anything else, for that matter) in a manner which deprives its citizens of the equal protection of the laws.

So, the cases that are challenging marriage laws are not about whether the states or feds have the power to regulate marriage, but rather whether prohibiting "same-sex marriage" deprives certain citizens of equal protection.

23 posted on 02/11/2015 3:59:26 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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“With all of the meddling by the court into this issue, and given that Ted Cruz IS THE ONLY potential POTUS candidate who has, and continues to take a strong stand on this issue, In Other Words, puts actions to his words, he can only benefit from his fidelity to this conservative policy position.”

Senator Cruz has moved me into his camp based upon his strong stand. I was following Huckabee, but his rhetoric is tough, though not necessarily his actions. I don’t see Mike pressing the capitulating Governor of Alabama to back up judge Moore....this bothers and disappoints me.

I sure hope that Ted Cruz doesn’t drop this issue should the SCOTUS “misrule” later this year. I have seen some on this forum accuse Ted of being disingenuous for taking this position (calling it futile). I disagree, I think he is the real deal on this...and he not just grandstanding.

My PRIMARY focus has been and will remain to be moral/social conservative issues. Ted please stay the course. I don’t want to have to stay home in the general election because the GOP cannot field someone morally conservative like Ted Cruz.


24 posted on 02/11/2015 5:13:55 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
My PRIMARY focus has been and will remain to be moral/social conservative issues. Ted please stay the course. I don’t want to have to stay home in the general election because the GOP cannot field someone morally conservative like Ted Cruz

So are mine and I like what Ted Cruz is doing on the Social Issues and believe he is sincere in his efforts.
25 posted on 02/11/2015 6:15:07 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Augustinian monk
PING for the next time someone accuses Rand Paul of being a liberal or something for taking same position

LOL! Fair enough.

26 posted on 02/11/2015 6:16:21 PM PST by Drew68
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