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Scalia Hides Hint that Kennedy was PAID for the 5th Vote in footnote?
vanity | 25 Jun 15 | Xzins

Posted on 06/26/2015 10:33:49 AM PDT by xzins

From Scalia's dissent on court conducting a putsch to overthrow the country:

"22 If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began:
“The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,”
I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.


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To: xzins

I read Scalia’s disnenting opinion in Obergfell. Where is the cited quote contained?


41 posted on 06/26/2015 10:54:41 AM PDT by old school
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To: Cboldt

If I had to sign on to STUPID LINE X, I’d hide my head, EVEN IF paid a price.


42 posted on 06/26/2015 10:54:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

I believe that this decision will hasten the invocation of an Article V convention.


43 posted on 06/26/2015 10:56:41 AM PDT by batterycommander (- a little more rubble, a lot less trouble.)
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To: xzins

this government has been run by metal offerings since the assassination of JFK


44 posted on 06/26/2015 10:56:50 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: RIghtwardHo

Scalia wrote it. I didn’t.

And he left interpretation to ....

What price was paid that caused him to hide his head in a bag over writing that ridiculous line?


45 posted on 06/26/2015 10:57:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

And you wonder why Kennedy heads attract bullets.


46 posted on 06/26/2015 10:57:29 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: old school

Scalia’s opinion, Obergfell, footnote #22


47 posted on 06/26/2015 10:58:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins
Weird thing is that the "even if" phrase isn't necessary to make the point.

At any rate, no sense in taking an outcome-determined court of law seriously. They'll do what suits them, and there are enough precedents around (going both ways) that it is trivial to pick the ones that support the selected outcome.

All courts are outcome driven. Somethimes the outcome really does comport with the law, but the law does not drive the outcome.

48 posted on 06/26/2015 10:59:29 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: xzins

Nonsense


49 posted on 06/26/2015 11:00:04 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: xzins
If I had to sign on to STUPID LINE X, I’d hide my head, EVEN IF paid a price.

No. It's "Even if I had to do it to get a fifth vote on my side, if I ever had to sign on to STUPID LINE X, I'd hide my head."

50 posted on 06/26/2015 11:00:29 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: xzins

I don’t think he means a literal payment. I think he means in terms of the consequences.


51 posted on 06/26/2015 11:00:53 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

If I had to sign on to STUPID LINE X, I’d hide my head, EVEN IF I had to suffer the consequence.

He already knows he’s suffering the consequences.


52 posted on 06/26/2015 11:03:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

Scalia is too intelligent to merely suggest something like this and not have the evidence to back it up. Someone was “paid” for their decisions. Just read the majority decision and how the law was contorted to conform to their interpretation of the Constitution.


53 posted on 06/26/2015 11:03:34 AM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: xzins

Interesting, and I wouldn’t be surprised.

But we knew Kennedy had no principles. Roberts is a bigger problem.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2005-07-20.html


54 posted on 06/26/2015 11:05:37 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: virgil

I’ve always wondered what kind of crap they had on Roberts.


55 posted on 06/26/2015 11:05:44 AM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Hey! That reminds me of a song.")
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To: xzins

Nope. What Scalia was implying was that sometimes judges join a side that already has five votes in return for a deciding vote they agree with on another case.

I suspect such horsetrading has gone on since the Founding.


56 posted on 06/26/2015 11:06:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: xzins

No, he is referring to the compromises that are sometimes made between justices, along the lines of: if you vote to affirm the lower court’s decision, I will agree to include your preferred language in the Court’s opinion.


57 posted on 06/26/2015 11:07:21 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: mojito
That's how I take it, as well.
58 posted on 06/26/2015 11:08:48 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Sherman Logan
If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began:

IF I ever joined an opinion for the Court, EVEN as the price to be paid for a 5th vote... I'd (still) hide my head in a bag."

59 posted on 06/26/2015 11:10:49 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I agree, a hinter he definitely is NOT. This is scathing to say the very least; “I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.”

That, I would guess, is the equivalent of a redneck type such as myself asking, “What in the flying f*** is goin’ on here, this is not the supreme court of San Francisco, dammit!”


60 posted on 06/26/2015 11:12:13 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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