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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Non-starter. Cruz ia a NBC.

No, cruz was a Canadian at birth. You cannot be both a NBC American and a Canadian citizen at the same time. You may be so jaded that you cannot grasp that, bit that does not change the fact the cruz is not a NBC. And if he were to get the nomination you would see just how fast that would be proven. Fortunately, cruz getting the nomination is just not a real possibility at this point.
13 posted on 02/15/2016 6:03:28 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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To: JoSixChip

The Dominion of Canada doesn’t get to decide who is, or is not a natural born US citizen.


42 posted on 02/15/2016 6:23:16 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: JoSixChip

Canadian law is irrelevant to this discussion.

A citizen at birth is a natural born citizen and has never needed to be naturalized.

According to U.S.C Title 8 Section 1101 - Definitions (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1101) subsection A part (23), the term “naturalization” ONLY occurs after being born. Thus a person who, by the circumstances of their birth is a citizen, and never needs to be naturalized.

It is organic to a nation state to define it’s boundaries as well as it’s citizens. Every nation does this. The US Constitution vests the authority to determine the rules of naturalization - which includes all rules, with Congress. This is specifically enumerated in Article I Section 8.

Thus Congress is vested with the authority to determine who are aliens and need to be naturalized in order to be a citizen. It also is vested with the authority to determine who is a citizen. Some are citizens via naturalization, some are citizens AT BIRTH (the at birth is important). Congress has addressed this issue by determining who is a citizen at birth. The current state of the law is addressed in Title 8 section 1401 - Citizens at birth (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401).

Under subsection A of that code, all who are born on US soil are US Citizens at birth and having never been naturalized are therefore natural born citizens

Under subsection G of that code (even the prior version), all who are born to at least one US citizen parent, as long as that parent has met the time requirements for residence inside the US, is also a citizen at birth. And like subsection A above, have never been naturalized and are therefore natural born citizens.


63 posted on 02/15/2016 6:36:02 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: JoSixChip
You cannot be both a NBC American and a Canadian citizen at the same time.

You, sir, are a liar.
94 posted on 02/15/2016 6:55:04 PM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: JoSixChip
By that flawed reasoning and with some variety of reasons, George Romney (Moral Monster Mitt's daddy) was a Mexican citizen at birth (born there and no indications that his parents intended to return to US), Moral Monster Mitt Romney would, according to Birther doctrine, not be an NBC since Daddy George was neither NBC nor ever naturalized, Obozo was a British and American citizen since his father was a British colonial subject and his mother an American citizen no matter where he was born, Cruz would be Cuban and Canadian and American citizen since he was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father. This is like some ridiculous credentials contest at a Young Republican convention.

Maybe the Founding Fathers REFUSED to define Natural Born Citizen for a reason. Maybe a POTUS's policies are infinitely more important than the unsubstantiated views of those who simply cannot get over Obozo getting away with violating what they imagine or fantasize the constitution to mean. Rubio's parents were not known to be citizens when he was born. Maybe Bobby Jindal's parents likewise. Does anyone know who Ben Carson's dad was? What if his mother does not know? Trump's mother was born in Scotland as a British citizen apparently and may not have naturalized before he was born, in which case TRUMP!!! was also a Brit citizen, etc., etc., etc. Can we concentrate on beating the Demonrats now and electing a candidate best suited to revive the Republic? Haven't the Demonrats given us enough REAL ISSUES to beat them with?

If TRUMP cannot see himself nominated without disqualifying the field, maybe he should go back to his lifelong profession of bribing leftist NY and Chicago and Atlantic City politicians for favors rendered to his businesses?

113 posted on 02/15/2016 7:14:45 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: JoSixChip
You cannot be both a NBC American and a Canadian citizen at the same time.

Aw, did you write your own Constitution and make up that provision all by your little self? So cute. But go back to playing with Duplo blocks. You're not ready for the 1st grade level yet.

135 posted on 02/15/2016 7:57:29 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: JoSixChip

... No, cruz was a Canadian at birth ...

Just as John McCain was a Panamanian at birth.

Get over it already.


144 posted on 02/15/2016 8:25:55 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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