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1 posted on 12/29/2017 3:40:53 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 12/29/2017 3:43:48 AM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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No, some people recognize a conflict for what it really is. Some people also can see a problem right in front of them.


3 posted on 12/29/2017 3:44:27 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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How do you demonize a pedophile? It’s already done for us.....


4 posted on 12/29/2017 3:46:48 AM PST by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of their enslavement"--JimRob)
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Bookmarking this!


5 posted on 12/29/2017 3:52:42 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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7 posted on 12/29/2017 3:57:32 AM PST by tomkat
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It seems that Mohamed and Islam were seen by Jews as relatively ‘normal’ non-Jews with a blood lust for empire until the teachings of the Koran actually built a unique culture. By the 12th century he was sometimes just referred to as ‘The Madman’, though Islam was seen as apocalyptic as early as the start of the 8th century.


8 posted on 12/29/2017 3:58:46 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To understand any phenomenon, its roots must first be understood. Unfortunately, not only do all discussions on the conflict between Islam and the West tend to be limited to the modern era, but when the past, the origins, are alluded to, the antithesis of reality is proffered: we hear that the West—itself an anachronism for Europe, or better yet, Christendom—began the conflict by intentionally demonizing otherwise peaceful and tolerant Muslims and their prophet in order to justify their “colonial” aspirations in the East, which supposedly began with the Crusades.

Someones study of History seems a bit limited...


Genesis 16:12

"He will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers."


9 posted on 12/29/2017 4:00:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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10 posted on 12/29/2017 4:00:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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>>The sooner more people in the West understand this—understand the roots of the animosity—the sooner the true nature of the current (or rather ongoing) conflict will become clear.

All I need to see to know this is the timeline.

God comes down to earth as Jesus to give us the gospel and to save mankind from damnation.

Six centuries later, a man enters a cave and meets a demon. He runs home and hides, but his wife tells him to go back and see what it has to say. The demon tells him that Jesus is not God, Jews are not the Chosen People, and that both are guilty of unpardonable sins so he must convert or kill them.

If you believe the teachings of Christianity, then Islam must be evil. If you don’t, then either one or both could be evil.


11 posted on 12/29/2017 4:03:12 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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Islam demonized itself.

Mohammad got his start robbing caravans, killing, raping, beheading, etc. Islam at its core is evil so there was no need for any other group to demonize.


12 posted on 12/29/2017 4:07:20 AM PST by boycott
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Watch this spot


14 posted on 12/29/2017 4:10:49 AM PST by madison10
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Bkmk


16 posted on 12/29/2017 4:12:38 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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The crusaders should have done to islam, what islam wants to do to Christianity. Destroy it.


17 posted on 12/29/2017 4:14:58 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Damn propagandists!


18 posted on 12/29/2017 4:19:20 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Islam is a false religion. Besides me saying so doesn’t mean you get to kill Americans or me.


19 posted on 12/29/2017 4:24:46 AM PST by stockpirate (Give Peas a Chance)
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Burden of proof is on the Muslims.

Jesus Christ was not only crucified, but Ressurrected, seen by hundreds, and witnessed to have ascended to Heaven, and then followed as promised by God the Holy Spirit indwelling believers.

In order for the Islamic message to have any validity, it has to clearly explain how God has changed His Plan since those known events.

Islam claims Jesus Christ is a Prophet, but denies His Truth. So either He wasn’t who He said He was and not a Prophet, or He was who He had claimed and His Word is true.

Islam is contradictory regarding Jesus Christ and consequently shown to be untruthful. Since Islam came about some 6 centuries after the Ascension, it has lots of explaining to do if it is ever to be taken as truthful.


20 posted on 12/29/2017 4:24:55 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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Muhammed demonized himself. He didn’t need any help from Christians.


21 posted on 12/29/2017 4:33:31 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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Wow...just WOW!

So all those early writers and observers of Islamic slaughter of Christians are racist? Therefore the need for self-defense and military defense against an invading violent pseudo-religion was 'wrong?'

Sorry Mr. Ibrahim, me thinks you have succumbed to lies and deceit. To 'believe' those early texts do not accurately describe the conquests of islam is naive at best and dangerous denial at worst. And the effort you put forth in this piece today is even worse as it twists the truth of the time leading up to the Crusades.

http://www.historyisfascinating.com/2015/02/the-fascinating-history-of-crusades.html

22 posted on 12/29/2017 4:44:17 AM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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There is also this to remember, that the rise of Islam did not occur in a vacuum, and that Muhammed (570-632), whilst being a reformer against local sects of idol worship, still embodied much of polygamy and tribal culture of Arabia within his message. Also, within the area of Syria, Arabia and Egypt, many of the Christian communities were heretical Monophysites who rejected the arguments that led to the Chalcedon Creed of 451.

This Monophysite belief held that the Christ was either entirely of God or had a mixed ‘nature’ whereas the Chalcedon Creed held that Christ was both Human and the Eternal Son of God at the same time. Those passages in the Koran that grant Jesus a prophet’s standing and the contemporary (600-800s) ‘good’ treatment of Christians as fellow ‘people of the book’, made the conquest of Syria to North Africa an easier task.

As for the outside world, the Byzantine Empire and the Persian Sasanian Empire had been fighting for centuries and had basically exhausted themselves. Then there was also a very bad outbreak of the Plague (Justinian’s Plague) that further weakened the communities. Thus when Islam’s Armies erupted, there was little to poor resistance against them. In the West, Syria fell first in 641 and the rest of North Africa fell all of the way to Spain, stopping, as an unbroken conquest, at the Battle of Tours in 732.

In the East, the Persian Sasanian Empire had even less luck, and was fully conquered by 651 with the Islamic Armies pushing on to India and into Central Asia by the 750s. Other Islamic forces also went north into Armenia and the Caucuses area with equal success. Nothing in known history equals this lightning-like string of military successes over such a large territory. By the Umayyad Caliphate of 750, with the capital in Damascus, their empire stretched from Spain to the edge of India and well into Central Asia.


25 posted on 12/29/2017 5:03:25 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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The vicious lying piece of shit has no redeeming qualities. Any questions?


26 posted on 12/29/2017 5:03:37 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism us truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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