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Ban cars? Ban driverless cars? They have no constitutional rights, correct? Who has liability? Why did the car kill the human?!

1 posted on 03/19/2018 10:20:30 AM PDT by Reno89519
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It is likely the first pedestrian fatality caused by a self-driving car.

But likely not the last...

2 posted on 03/19/2018 10:21:57 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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Jay walking can be fatal


3 posted on 03/19/2018 10:22:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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I’ve seen them here (Pittsburgh) going the wrong way down a one way street more than once.


4 posted on 03/19/2018 10:24:08 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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That will put a sock in the mouths of the idiot hipsters that promoted self-driving cares because human drives were all supposedly a bunch of idiots that couldn’t be trusted with private auto ownership.


5 posted on 03/19/2018 10:24:11 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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It is likely the first pedestrian fatality caused by a self-driving car.

Put that on his/ her tombstone. its like being the first person to have a heart transplant, or die in outer space

6 posted on 03/19/2018 10:25:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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I still say one of the (largely) missed aspects of all of this is Insurance.

If I don’t design the car and I don’t drive the car — if the car has neither steering wheel nor brake pedals — then I don’t have to buy auto insurance. General Motors has to buy auto insurance. For millions of cars. And when accidents happen, the car company will be 100% to blame. Deep pockets. Lawyers will clean up on that.


7 posted on 03/19/2018 10:25:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Racism against Whites is a real thing. Let's stop pretending it isn't.)
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There was another one not to long ago...crashed into a truck?

Driverless cars are stupid. I don't want to look over and see one beside me. It's insane? Take a damn bus.

9 posted on 03/19/2018 10:27:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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>>Why did the car kill the human?

Don’t know but SUVs apparently like to kill humans


11 posted on 03/19/2018 10:28:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn thvictims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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UBER and all others need to be fully liable for all accidents of any kind with any of this driverless initiative.


12 posted on 03/19/2018 10:29:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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My bet is that the car followed the traffic laws and this woman was jay walking or walking against the light.


13 posted on 03/19/2018 10:29:04 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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The video here says it was somebody on a bicycle.

https://www.abc15.com/news/arizona-police-investigating-self-driving-uber-car-involved-in-crash-overnight


14 posted on 03/19/2018 10:29:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Pedestrian or bicyclist?

The Verge reports: "The crash occurred near Mill Avenue and Curry Road early Monday morning in Tempe, Arizona, the channel reports. The Uber vehicle was reportedly headed northbound when a woman walking outside of the crosswalk was struck. The woman was taken to the hospital where she later died from her injuries. Early reports suggested that she may have been a bicyclist, but that may not be the case."

source: https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/19/17139518/uber-self-driving-car-fatal-crash-tempe-arizona

16 posted on 03/19/2018 10:30:10 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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FR is slow on the image draw today:


17 posted on 03/19/2018 10:30:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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Why did the car kill the pedestrian?

Because it could.
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Why was the pedestrian crossing the road?

To play uber chicken.


19 posted on 03/19/2018 10:30:52 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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My Mother The Car is a murderer?


20 posted on 03/19/2018 10:31:04 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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The current system is insane enough where cars with drivers are zipping past each other in the same and opposite directions, often on narrow two-lane highways, at high speeds. To entrust so-called self-driving cars controlled by computers which were programmed by mere humans is beyond insane.


23 posted on 03/19/2018 10:32:41 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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Tempe police say the self-driving Uber was in autonomous mode at the time of the collision and there was a vehicle operator behind the wheel.

Well, that is asinine that someone had to die while there was a human being there to catch the Uber mistake...


25 posted on 03/19/2018 10:33:06 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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27 posted on 03/19/2018 10:33:30 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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What isn’t reported but what I’m curious about is
what did the car do next? Did it stop at the scene
of the accident? Did it even know it hit something?
Did it keep on going (hit and run)?


34 posted on 03/19/2018 10:35:19 AM PDT by jerseyman
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Maybe someone will point out that a computer program cannot possibly have the same ability to perceive and judge as a human. Yes, humans are fallible and cause accidents all the time but can distinguish between a human and a shadow. A computer program does not perceive. It calculates. Human perception is superior to that of a computer program with a camera lens.


41 posted on 03/19/2018 10:37:37 AM PDT by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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