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Sometimes, I think I am the only guy in America who understands and comments about what is going on with this issue.

(1) In 2015, in his first campaign speech, Trump declared that he would "end DACA immediately." That promise turned out to be artful, political rhetoric.

(2) In 2016, Trump persuaded a group of state attorneys general to suspend their federal lawsuit, which claimed DACA was unconstitutional.

(3) For the first seven months of the Trump Administration, Trump did absolutely nothing to end DACA.

(4) In September 2017, after the state attorneys general threatened to re-open their federal lawsuit, Trump ordered Jeff Sessions to declare DACA unconstitutional, and to send an Executive Order to the Secretary of Homeland Security to stop enforcing DACA.

(5) Democrats immediately filed for injunctive relief in multiple federal courts.

(6) From memory, four courts have mostly sided with the Democrats, and one court has sided with Trump. Also, going unnoticed, is that Trump sends teams of career DOJ Democrat lawyers into federal court to argue Trump's anti-DACA case!

(7) The four pro-Democrat court rulings essentially make the same argument - namely, that Jeff Sessions cannot declare anything unconstitutional. Only a federal judge can do that.

(8) However, each of those four rulings also intimates that Trump has the authority to end DACA by simply writing a new Executive Order.

(9) Trump has ALWAYS had the lawful authority to end DACA - anytime he wants to - with this two sentence Executive Order: "Based on the exact language in the Immigration Act of 1965, the DACA kids are unlawfully present in the USA. Therefore, I order the Secretary of Homeland Security to remove them."

(10) No federal court in the country could even review an Executive Order like that.

(11) Bottom Line - Trump does not want to deport the DACA kids.

1 posted on 04/25/2018 12:52:32 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Judge Bates gave a roadmap to the administration Tuesday for how it could justify its phaseout. He said the government could offer a “coherent” argument for how DACA conflicts with immigration law, or that it violates the president’s constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

One prominent law professor, Josh Blackman, has repeatedly urged the Justice Department to make both of those arguments to the courts, but the government’s lawyers have yet to do so.

Where is Sessions?


2 posted on 04/25/2018 12:59:17 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: zeestephen

I agree, President Trump does have that power, but the optics would be horrendous. By doing the slow drip of court actions and deportations, many of them have self deported, as have many others.

He is using Sun Tzu tactics for taking the hill, without ever actually fighting for the hill.


3 posted on 04/25/2018 1:00:15 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: zeestephen

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3650167/posts


4 posted on 04/25/2018 1:03:14 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: zeestephen

If Trump wanted to lay down an Ace here...just say that all DACA applications will be accepted...but only in the home-country of the applicant, and they must show a state ID of that country to start the process. Also, the application would flow from the US embassy in that country....back to the US.


5 posted on 04/25/2018 1:04:55 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: zeestephen
(10) No federal court in the country could even review an Executive Order like that.

The judicial system does have judicial review over Presidential executive orders. It's been used on every President, including FDR (which he lost).

It's time for Trump to automatically and unilaterally if necessary, suspend any action ordered by these inferior federal courts until SCOTUS rules on them. Not refuse to hear the, Scotus hear arguments and rule on them.

6 posted on 04/25/2018 1:08:03 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: zeestephen

What I don’t understand is if one President can bypass our system (congress) and unilaterally make a policy/law; why can’t the next President unilaterally undo it the same way?

What’s good for the goose and all that...


8 posted on 04/25/2018 1:21:31 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a Moral Cancer on Society!)
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To: zeestephen

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Bates
From New Jersey. A “Buddhist”
Appointed first by Bush I to the Federal Courts and to his present position by that other idiot Justice Roberts.
Hard at work stealing your country.


11 posted on 04/25/2018 1:28:37 AM PDT by ZULU (End the Obama/Holder "Promise" program, FIRE Runcie, the $335,000 Broward Co. Stupidintendent of Sc)
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To: zeestephen

Obviously Trump thought he could use DACA as leverage to get everything else he wants; the wall, end to chain migration, end visa lottery, etc. The Dems refused because it was never about DACA for them, it’s about unlimited immigration. Trump didn’t get his deal but he did take DACA away from the Democrats as an issue to gin up support for amnesty. I think he wants to have it as a bargaining chip for a while yet, while he knows he can kill it anytime.


14 posted on 04/25/2018 1:47:42 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: zeestephen

Everytime a law is passed by the people for the public good such as Prop 187 in California back in ‘94 and other examples, subversives grab a leftist judge to overturn the will of the people. I am not a lawyer, but if B.O.could executively sign DACA into law then Trump can undo it just as easily. The parallel of what the government has been doing for a long time to the complaints stated in the Declaration of Independence are like a couple of railroad tracks. It’s long over due for a redress. I see no other way.


16 posted on 04/25/2018 2:02:57 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: zeestephen

It’s a frickin’ Presidential Executive Order and it CAN be rescinded by the next president if he wants to.

F this hack of a Democrat.


17 posted on 04/25/2018 2:44:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: zeestephen

And a year later, he hasn’t built a wall. But we did get.. trillions in chuck n Nancy deals that fund every liberal act of thievery, a bumpstock ban, Syrian rapefugees.. so yeah we must be winning. Remember those shovel ready job memes we all laughed at? now Stimulus is cool. They are just party pimps.
Every inch of the wall should have been complete before handing trillions to Dems. Every. Inch.
I think they could run anyone in 2020 because clearly voting for trump got us very little in life changing policy for freedom lovers. And he couldn’t build a wall.
If every inch isn’t complete by 2020, they should stand up and admit they were wrong. Not voting for more of what we are getting now, kabuki theater. He’s entertaining, when he could be leading.
He is a gun grabbing, American kids last, liberal, still. Surprised?
There are a bunch of bots on here that should be reminded that their blind support for a liberal got us in much, more debt and no wall.


19 posted on 04/25/2018 2:46:31 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018)
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To: zeestephen

President Trump should tell these pisant Federal Judges to go pound salt.

They are acting outside their constitutional authority and responsibilities and it is time to rein them in.

We all know that the Constitution establishes the Legislature, judicial and executive as coequal branches of the federal government.

The judiciary does not have superior authority over the legislature and executive nor does it have constitutional authority to usurp or assume for itself the authority and responsibilities of the legislature or the executive.

It is not within the purview of a federal judge to formulate laws or manage how the executive carries out its constitutional duties.

The federal judiciary does not have the constitutional authority to micro-manage the actions of the president as he carries out his duties within the limits of the constitution.

The judiciary does have the constitutional responsibility to determine if the legislature and executive are acting in an unconstitutional way.

But that is not what is taking place with this constant action on the part of the judiciary to over-ride executive action that is in compliance with existing law.


22 posted on 04/25/2018 3:34:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Winston Churchill On Islam: "No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”)
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To: zeestephen
So - what's your point? Would you have Trump become a monster in a LOT of eyes and throw away an opportunity to quell the flood of millions because of a few hundred thousand that were invited by our government (whether you like that fact or not)?

"All or nothing and damn the consequences" would make us......Democraps....and even bigger idiots than them.

27 posted on 04/25/2018 3:52:14 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: zeestephen

Curious how you’ve forgotten in your timeline that the DACA xo from Obama was ruled illegal - which was what brought this all on.


28 posted on 04/25/2018 4:35:17 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: zeestephen; All

First, we called #1 LYING. No need to put a McCabe spin.

The ‘follow-up’ EO is unnecessary (IMO, it muddies the water further).

The exec. cannot create Law; it exists merely to FAITHFULLY execute the same.

Zero’s EO is unlawful, null & void. There is nothing to ‘rescind’.


34 posted on 04/25/2018 5:10:03 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: zeestephen

I’d wager this “Judge” is owned by the Goldman Sachs/Wall Street gang.


37 posted on 04/25/2018 5:28:25 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: zeestephen

I am tired of the courts running this country.

Does this demand mean that Trump has to PROCESS the applications? Or just ‘accept’ them?

When I have a house for sale, I get lots of ‘offers’ I reject almost all of them. When I get the offer I want, I sell.


39 posted on 04/25/2018 5:55:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: zeestephen

DACA never made it past the “Bill” stage, because Congress never voted on it.
Obama said he would write an executive order, but never did.
How can this judge just issue a ruling making a nebulous idea into being law?
Legislating from the bench.


40 posted on 04/25/2018 6:05:15 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: zeestephen

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The court has no authority to legislate like this.

Obama’s unconstitutional executive order died when his tyranny died January 20, 2017.

I hope President Trump has the guts to thwart this outrageous treason by the court.
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44 posted on 04/25/2018 8:10:53 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: zeestephen

No. Do not do it Donald! Simply refuse to do it!! Keep shipping these criminal out!!


46 posted on 04/25/2018 8:31:30 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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