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Climate change: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' (barf alert)
BBC News ^ | 1st November 2018 | BBC News

Posted on 10/31/2018 8:47:42 PM PDT by Ennis85

Researchers say that the world has seriously underestimated the amount of heat soaked up by our oceans over the past 25 years.

Their study suggests that the seas have absorbed 60% more than previously thought.

They say it means the Earth is more sensitive to fossil fuel emissions than estimated.

This could make it much more difficult to to keep global warming within safe levels this century.

What have the researchers found?

According to the last major assessment by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the world's oceans have taken up over 90% of the excess heat trapped by greenhouse gases.

But this new study says that every year, for the past 25 years, we have put about 150 times the amount of energy used to generate electricity globally into the seas - 60% more than previous estimates.

That's a big problem.

Scientists base their predictions about how much the Earth is warming by adding up all the excess heat that is produced by the known amount of greenhouse gases that have been emitted by human activities.

This new calculation shows that far more heat than we thought has been going into oceans. But it also means that far more heat than we thought has been generated by the warming gases we have emitted.

Therefore more heat from the same amount of gas means the Earth is more sensitive to CO2.

What are the implications of the finding?

The researchers involved in the study believe the new finding will make it much harder to keep within the temperature rise targets set by governments in the Paris agreement. Recently the IPCC spelled out clearly the benefits to the world of keeping below the lower goal of 1.5C relative to pre-industrial levels.

This new study says that will be very difficult indeed.

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1 posted on 10/31/2018 8:47:42 PM PDT by Ennis85
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..... Ya .... You derps .... It’s called geo-thermal activity under the oceans .... The ring of fire is becoming increasingly active.


2 posted on 10/31/2018 8:51:29 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: Ennis85

The implications of this finding include the fact that they don’t know what they are doing.


3 posted on 10/31/2018 8:52:21 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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Not to mention they clearly misunderstand the thermal properties of oceans, assuming their models are in the right galaxy.


4 posted on 10/31/2018 8:56:01 PM PDT by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Years ago the global warming demagogues said the ocean was sequestering heat in their depths, which is why the warming wasn't showing up; when it was studied on grant money of course, it was found that the oceans were not warming at depth, and btw it is physically impossible, the oceans get colder and brinier with depth (other than point sources of heat like undersea vents and volcanoes, neither of which is caused by solar radiance). So after some years, the global warming demagogues started to recycle this same old lie. They should just have their throats cut and be dumped somewhere.

5 posted on 10/31/2018 9:00:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Ennis85
The earth isn't warming as they predicted so they had to come up with an explanation; the ocean is absorbing the heat.

A few years ago they said the heat was sinking to the bottom of the oceans. They never explained how heat sinks.

If the oceans are heating the thermal expansion would be seen with increasing sea level. Do we see that happening?

Now the oceans are absorbing the heat that's supposed to be heating up the planet.

I wonder what the mechanism for this is. How did this suddenly happen?

Time for another theory to explain the previous theory.

And on and on.

6 posted on 10/31/2018 9:00:39 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The oceans don’t suck up heat and keep it. The currents go north and south and release it. This stuff is for the incredibly credulous.


7 posted on 10/31/2018 9:01:33 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Ennis85

Uh oh! Somebody’s grant is up for renewal!

Got to scare all us rubes! Quick!


8 posted on 10/31/2018 9:01:45 PM PDT by JennysCool
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How does less than one tenth of one percent of the earth’s heat capacity (atmosphere) influence the other 99.9% (oceans)?


9 posted on 10/31/2018 9:04:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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We better have some excess heat stored in the oceans to offset the onset of global cooling due to the low activity of the Sun.

Odd how the Earth seems to automatically balance things out.


10 posted on 10/31/2018 9:04:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” -- Theodore Dalrymple [Wiki attributes this to Anthony Daniels, TD is his nom de plume]

11 posted on 10/31/2018 9:06:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: yesthatjallen
Agree to all, except water expands when cooled.
12 posted on 10/31/2018 9:08:52 PM PDT by chiller (Race is irrelevant in these United States; just shades of skin color)
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To: UCANSEE2

I watched a great video not to long ago that someone posted here on how the earth and elements interact to create our weather.....I think it was by NOVA...but I got to say it was most interesting and engaging explanation I’d ever seen of how our weather is formed. Spell bounding!


13 posted on 10/31/2018 9:08:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ennis85

If the oceans are warm, then they boil out more CO2, hence their CO2 models are wrong. These people just do bean counting, and their models have nothing to do with climate dynamics.

It is like people saying raising taxes to pay off the deficit. It is not that simple


14 posted on 10/31/2018 9:09:05 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: SunkenCiv

It is fraud. It is theft. It should be treated as such.


15 posted on 10/31/2018 9:09:42 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Ennis85
Total garbage. Water does not absorb radiant energy efficiently at all. This is junk science at its worst. Here is a thought experiment that some of you can actually verify: Go to Phoenix AZ in midsummer after a couple weeks of 110 degree plus days. Go jump in your friend’s swimming pool. Do you expect a warm bath? Sorry.
16 posted on 10/31/2018 9:10:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: Ennis85
I happen to be a scientist. A real one.

And, I find this article completely offensive.

The assumptions, alleged observations, and duplicitous and fear mongering and hyperbolic conclusion are beyond ridiculous.

Lies, compounded.

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17 posted on 10/31/2018 9:10:59 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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Hey, look on the bright side: Seafood will soon come out of the ocean precooked and ready to eat.


18 posted on 10/31/2018 9:19:09 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: chiller
That's when you get to something like 4 degree c. That's when it starts to expand as it freezes.

Water expands when heated AND expands when it reaches the freezing point which is why it's unique.

19 posted on 10/31/2018 9:20:30 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Ennis85

When the BBC can explain what causes ice ages, and brief warming periods between ice ages, the Marauder minimum period, the middle age maximum warming and the little ice age anything they print is crap!

This was all before man had any significant impact on CO2 levels.

The real answer is orbital mechanics of the earth about the sun whose output is not a static quantity and the electromagnetic field of the earth which does effect total energy input received from the sun and cosmic rays that are integral to cloud cover of the earth. More cosmic rays means more clouds and thus much more reflective energy from the sun back into space and thus cooling. When the magnetic field is weak we have more cosmic rays enter our atmosphere and thus more cloud cover and thus cooling.

In reality they really do not know.

CO2 is plant food and when high life flourishes on earth and when low, life does not flourish. In Geologic terms we are actually in a CO2 drought, actually not far from extinction levels. It should also be noted that crops today are much more abundant due to our increased CO2 levels. CO2 is good!

Will the glacial caps of Greenland and the Antarctic melt? If geologic history is any indicator they will and it has not one damn thing to do with man. On the other hand we may be in a warming period of a glacial period and could full well go back to full ice age conditions. This has happened in the Geologic past.

If we really do go to full warming man will slowly retreat from the coast over thousands of years and there will be no disruption of civilization. It should be noted that the possible end of this ice age resulted in very rapid rises in sea levels for the past 12000 years. This rise has slowed greatly. It is very small compared to the last 12000 years. In the past when this rise slowed it was the beginning of a new ice age.

The normal condition of earth is Ice Age. These brief warming periods are an anomaly. Enjoy the warmth. It does not last long.

Geologist, Chemist, Pharmacist


20 posted on 10/31/2018 9:21:02 PM PDT by cpdiii (Cane Cutter, Deckhand,Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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