so let voter fraud in any state decide?
What will be hilariously funny is when Trump wins the popular vote as well.
Can they do this? The US constitution can be crumpled up like this?
Mob rule, here we come.
Typical of the left to just forge forward, regardless of any negative consequences (intended or unintended). No idea how this plays out in real practice. No concern how it plays out in real practice.
Locks in the illegal vote demographic to their cause. Changes the election dynamics. Adds more incentive for fraud at all points in the election process. Invites nightmare scenarios for close votes, and now crossing state lines. Disenfranchises whole states. Destroys federalism (continue the long march with the 17thA), Republic-destroying, ....
Exactly, talk about disenfranchisement, this is the king.
Also note everyone of them is a deep blue state.
If this is indeed constitutional, the Republican party should mount (has to mount) an aggressive campaign in California for Donald Trump.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.If my vote is made irrelevant to how my state's electors are assigned, then under the 14th Amendment, ALL the electoral votes are to be tossed.
ML/NJ
Sounds like we’re moving towards another civil war. These states are making many of their voters 3/5 citizens.
One could argue that their votes would still count, as those votes would be added to the national total.
What would no longer count - electorally speaking - is Maine as a state. This ‘National Popular Vote’ idea is bad for a dozen reasons. And it’s particularly bad for smaller states. They are surrendering all their influence to the four or five largest states.
Which is exactly what the Founders were trying to prevent.
Amazing so many states want to shed what little autonomy they have in the process and submissively nestle at the feet of CA and NY and let voters in those overcrowded states rule over them.
Compacts are unconstitutional.
Seems to me that since Federal courts can knock down redistricting because changing a district boundary deprives a portion of the voters of significant say so in elections that depriving what could well be a State wide majority voting for one Presidential candidate of their votes based on what the national vote total initially appears to be.
And when trump wins popular vote...
Imagine the democrat winning your state by a wide margin, but the Republican wins the country’s popular vote, so your delegates go to the Republican.
If I lived in main, I would be quite upset and utterly disenfranchised if I was a democrat voter, and I’d be in the wide majority. I wonder if this passes the constitutional test.
Proving once again that democracy is mob rule.
The US is a bit like the EU. That is, a bunch of mostly sovereign states under a single government umbrella. Imagine “Joe” winning the popular vote as “ruler of the EU”, And the UK widely favored Bill. But, since Joe got the overall popular vote thanks to France, Germany, Greece, etc, the UK throws their weight behind Joe.
If I lived in the UK and voted for Bill (like most of my countrymen did), I’d be royally pissed.
Thus, taking away the state's rights/votes of the people!