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Interesting (maybe critical) update on the Israeli elections from Caroline Glick.
Caroline Glick ^ | Sept 20 2019 | Caroline Glick

Posted on 09/20/2019 6:29:34 AM PDT by golux

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1 posted on 09/20/2019 6:29:34 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux

I agree that parliamentary elections are tough to understand but Haaretz called it for Ganz - sp? - yesterday.


2 posted on 09/20/2019 6:33:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: golux

Not a big fan of parliamentary government. Way too much compromising of values and lack of stability and no real separation of powers.


3 posted on 09/20/2019 6:34:13 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: golux

Let me know when we have a decision.


4 posted on 09/20/2019 6:36:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: frogjerk
Why do they make it so damn hard to understand.....so who is the boss of Israel??
5 posted on 09/20/2019 6:38:35 AM PDT by mastertex
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To: golux
Gantz cannot form a government under any circumstances. He cannot build a majority coalition.

Neither can Netenyahu. Either Blue and White form a unity government with Ganz as the first PM or they go for election number 3.

6 posted on 09/20/2019 6:44:40 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: miss marmelstein
but Haaretz called it for Ganz

Haaretz is an far left-wing organ whose credibility is about on a par with the Guardian in Britain or the New York Times here in the US. I would put little value in anything they publish.

7 posted on 09/20/2019 6:45:12 AM PDT by Blennos
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I never understood why more countries don’t look to adopt a modified U.S.-type system with a separate executive branch of government.


8 posted on 09/20/2019 6:50:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: miss marmelstein

Many here described Haaretz as a rabid left-wing rag. If true, then it’s very likely Haaretz put out wishful headlines and are following the lead of fake news scammers.


9 posted on 09/20/2019 6:50:50 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: golux

Gantz’s Kachol Lavan has only 33 seats. He would need the religious parties and Yisrael Beinteinu as well as the parties of the Israeli Left to form a government.

That means he would need to make compromises to make it happen. He can’t with some of his potential partners’ aversion to sitting with the religious.

Which leaves a coalition with the Likud and secular Zionist parties. Those are his only options.

That or a Likud-led government will be established. The alternative are new elections. A reality that will become clear in the coming weeks.


10 posted on 09/20/2019 6:59:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mastertex

Stacey Abrams is pretty sure that she won.


11 posted on 09/20/2019 7:02:27 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: golux

The evolving situation with Iran will force Lieberman and Netanyahu to settle their differences (at least temporarily) and form a national unity war government. When shooting starts in the Gulf and Israel is attacked by Iran or its proxies, Israel will then use the opportunity to destroy Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, its nuclear personnel and much of its “revolutionary guards”. It will be amazing what the stealthy GPS directed drones in conjunction with on the ground Mossad will do. Iran is the existential threat to Israel and the Jewish people. Netanyahu will not leave office until he deals with Iran.


12 posted on 09/20/2019 7:03:15 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: FirstFlaBn

Yuk Yuk Yuk! Yah, OK, but would she go by, Stacey Ibrahim?


13 posted on 09/20/2019 7:24:45 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Sacajaweau

As soon a Hilliary concedes........................


14 posted on 09/20/2019 7:34:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: Alberta's Child
I never understood why more countries don’t look to adopt a modified U.S.-type system with a separate executive branch of government.

BUMP!

15 posted on 09/20/2019 7:49:27 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Alberta's Child
I never understood why more countries don’t look to adopt a modified U.S.-type system with a separate executive branch of government.

In a parliamentarian system the parties are all-powerful. While a person can rise to lead a party, he still has to do it with party support. A maverick like Trump could never rise to leadership. Nor can the PM and government go against the will of the party in parliament. In essence, the government is only a ruling committee of the parliamentary majority.

16 posted on 09/20/2019 7:52:28 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: golux

Thank you for that clear and easy to understand explanation.


17 posted on 09/20/2019 8:08:05 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: goldstategop
The alternative are new elections. A reality that will become clear in the coming weeks.

But how long can this go on? How many elections can they have if they keep returning the same results? If this stays the same, sooner or latter the parties are going to have to make major compromises to form either a ruling majority or a national unity government.

One of the dilemmas that is forcing the present gridlock is the block of Arab parties. Their hardline positions, and the resulting hardline opposition to them, removes a large number of MP's from any potential governing coalition; enough to prevent the remaining Jewish parties from having enough votes to form a majority among themselves without major, and to some unthinkable, compromises. Without their presence it would be easier for the Jewish parties to form a majority. But the Arab parties could not be excluded from the elections without jeopardizing Israel's standing as a democracy. With Israel's present parliamentary system and proportional representation (which I think is the worst form of government) I do not know what the solution could be, except those major compromises among the Jewish parties.

18 posted on 09/20/2019 8:08:24 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: golux

I’ve heard that certain voters who were prone to favor Bibi are growing tired of the ultra-orthodox who normally partner with him, especially due to their exemption exemption from military service and their control over who is to be considered a Jew.


20 posted on 09/20/2019 9:06:30 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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