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The Sober Math Everyone Must Understand about the Pandemic
Facebook ^ | March 12, 2020 | Jason S. Warner

Posted on 03/17/2020 10:42:50 AM PDT by Perseverando

This is a long post addressing two underlying issues with the current response to the pandemic that leave me concerned. It’s the longest post I’ve ever written.

For those of you not taking action, or believing the pandemic to be “over hyped”, you can make fun of me as much as you want now or when this is over. You can make me the subject of memes and post it everywhere. I will pose for the picture. I am not trying to convince you, but I do feel compelled to share information that I deem critical to all of us, which is why I am posting this at all.

WHY YOU SHOULD TAKE 5 MINUTES TO READ AND CONSIDER THE INFORMATION I AM SHARING:

As of 3/15/20 at 9 am PST this post has been shared over 50k times since it was posted 2 days ago. So a lot of people find value in the post and although it's a long read, I believe you will find this information valuable too.

For those of you who don’t know me well, I am analytical and metered. I don’t freak out nor do I respond emotionally. I also don’t post a bunch of bullshit or political or controversial stuff on Facebook. I founded and am CEO of a successful software company that provides SaaS based data, analytics, and dashboards to recruiting departments at companies we all know. As you would expect, I am data driven and fact based. Before founding my company I held executive roles leading very large recruiting teams at some of the world's fastest growing companies such as Starbucks and Google. At Google I was fortunate enough to report to Sheryl Sandberg before she took the Facebook COO role. I was a Chemical Engineering major in college and have

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; socialdistanciing
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To: Perseverando

Ya want ‘social distancing’? How about a new law requiring EVERYONE to eat at least one bulb of raw garlic each morning, allows only monthly showers and no deoderant allowed!

OK, so that pretty much covers all the Jihsdis.


21 posted on 03/17/2020 11:06:40 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (0 once was blind but now I see...)
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To: JD_UTDallas

the Army and Marines will enforce marital quarantine.

I thought wedding cake caused that...


22 posted on 03/17/2020 11:07:02 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mmichaels1970

It appears to me the “slide rule math” is the seriously ill are an order of magnitude above the deaths and the asymptomatic are another two orders of magnitude above that.


23 posted on 03/17/2020 11:07:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: JD_UTDallas; Perseverando

It is interesting how many people from both the left and the right are so comfortable with, and anxious to experiment with, authoritarianism. That applies to this and numerous other societal issues.


24 posted on 03/17/2020 11:07:22 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Perseverando
For those of you not taking action, or believing the pandemic to be “over hyped”, you can make fun of me as much as you want now or when this is over. You can make me the subject of memes and post it everywhere. I will pose for the picture. I am not trying to convince you, but I do feel compelled to share information that I deem critical to all of us, which is why I am posting this at all.

That's all you need to read. A sanctimonious a$$hole who is going to declare himself right no matter what happens.

"Disagree with me at your own peril."

25 posted on 03/17/2020 11:07:48 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: JD_UTDallas
The whole idea of “social distancing” in a free nation is preposterous.

If I refuse to participate in that idiocy, who am I putting at risk? Only myself, along with other people who are also VOLUNTARILY refusing to participate. Nobody who feels like they are at risk and wishes to protect themselves is going to face any more exposure just because I ignore a “social distancing” directive. It’s not like I’m gathering a band of friends to invade nursing homes and daycare centers.

26 posted on 03/17/2020 11:07:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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To: BushCountry

You use the word “cure.”

That is sweet.

Do you know how many coronavirus type diseases that have a cure?

That would be zero.

The antigens on the virus shift somewhat every time it replicates. They are crappy replicators. Less than 10% of their “replicants” are viable...but they make a lot of them. When it lucks out, the “connectors” to the human cells is different—so the body doesn’t recognize it.

So, vaccines might be OK. But not very effective. And a cure would be for a single type of the virus, at that moment. It would be ineffective a few months after its made.

If you are counting on any medicinal type of treatment...you might want to consider another plan.


27 posted on 03/17/2020 11:08:28 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: TheBattman

Have you noticed that many of the gloom and doom “experts” will not reveal the assumptions driving their predictions and recommendations. With US data sets being so small and problematic because of sometimes unique circumstance surrounding actual hospitalizations and deaths, the predictions of necessity must be more dependent on assumptions than on data.

People who urge a more measured approach to the problem (i.e., measures short of Martial Law Lite) are ridiculed as trivializing the problem. That is simply not true, the merchants of hysteria are simply setting up a straw man so that they can knock it down in order to avoid engaging in rational, measured debate.

How many times have we seen “expert predictions” of CAT 5 hurricanes only to see a tropical depression as the actual outcome or the “light dusting” of snow forecast followed by an “unpredictable” generational blizzard. In my 70 year life I have seen irrevocable “death sentences” issued by medical experts result in my having lived seventy years. I witnessed my grandfather die prematurely by following “expert cardiological advice” that a dermatology resident at a mediocre medical center would recognize as gross negligence by today’s standards.

I suspect that a number of us will die in the near or intermediate future from an overdose of “expert opinion”. Such as our hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US from “on label” use of pharmaceuticals and comparable numbers of premature deaths from “medical errors”. The Christians among us might want to consider whether we worship God or at the altar of “experts” approved by big government.


28 posted on 03/17/2020 11:08:44 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Perseverando

Nine “I”s in the first paragraph


29 posted on 03/17/2020 11:09:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Lockbox

Don’t know if this applies to corono or not, but it is well known that many HIV patients carried high viral load, but were not contagious. It turned out that approaching 99% of all virus shed was often incapable of infecting other cells in many patients.


30 posted on 03/17/2020 11:10:35 AM PDT by muskah
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To: Lockbox

This is the day that all introverted germaphobes dreamed of.


31 posted on 03/17/2020 11:11:02 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: TheBattman

Absolutely right! But it’s hard to convince people of the modeling and how these types of articles are not accounting for all day or real world variables.


32 posted on 03/17/2020 11:11:32 AM PDT by Mobilemitter (When it's all said and done, more is said than done...)
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To: Bob434; mmichaels1970

Good to see there are still people asking the unasked questions.


33 posted on 03/17/2020 11:12:24 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Perseverando

More of a “Me and Mine are mindlessly panicked so regular precautions can’t no way work for us so we need to get totally off the grid or....WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!” type thing.

He assumes much with no evidence - just assumptions/presumptions/modelling based on models where the disparity in different data being fed to the models varies by up to 300% and makes assumptions based on others who weren’t exercising a lot of the precautions until it was too late.


34 posted on 03/17/2020 11:13:22 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: lastchance

The Howard Hughes wing of FRee Republic.


35 posted on 03/17/2020 11:13:40 AM PDT by abb
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To: Perseverando

Thanks for posting this.


36 posted on 03/17/2020 11:14:13 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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To: TheConservativeBanker

I believe the woman, dr. Messinnier, at CDC, has been the testing holdup

AKA Rod Rosenstein’s sister


37 posted on 03/17/2020 11:14:28 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: JayGalt

NO no no.

Yopu don’t understand. This is the worst horror to befall our nation since the Revolution.

But wait!

The first Kentucky Derby was run in 1875.

It was run every single year until 1945, when it missed that year.

And it has now been delayed this year.

https://siouxcityjournal.com/coffee_break/the-full-list-all-kentucky-derby-winners-from-to-present/article_5a4f983d-5fc0-538f-862f-716a80d16008.html

so we are now suffering a calamity worse than all of the diseases and wars since 1875.

An insult to the many thousands that gave their lives so we could demonstrate what wimps we are.


38 posted on 03/17/2020 11:14:30 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: mmichaels1970

It’s not the death rate.

Yes, 80% or so have a mild case.

Of the 20% who get really sick, about half that number is hospitalized. About half of them need ICU level care. Each ICU stay is 10-14 days, vs 3-5 for the normal flu.

The number of ICU days needed throughout the country will be about 1.4 million patient days. Every day, there are 92,000 ICU beds in the US. At 80% capacity, there is about 18,600 available or transitional beds. Hospitals are always full.

So, at a peak, there will be about ten patients (at least) lined up for each bed. And the available beds will probably not be where the need is.

Does that put it into a better perspective?


39 posted on 03/17/2020 11:15:06 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Bob434

Shhhhh - can’t have an actually super low death rate that confines itself to, almost exclusively, high-risk minority of folks...I wonder if he knows/cares how many actually die from Flu, how many show very mild symptoms (just like The Great De,m Hope Virus, or even that 40K a year die on the highways and 2 million end up with permanent injuries from car wrecks - if so, he and his family might consider pulling off at first convenient woodlands and hiking to “safety”...


40 posted on 03/17/2020 11:16:47 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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