Posted on 05/10/2020 9:12:57 AM PDT by FewsOrange
Yes, you are right there are a few to many Hucksters peddling a false gospel.
So what?
Quit sky screaming.
So they were wrong. They crossed the line & was pulled off the air. End of story.
Get over it.
“Not really.”
Actually, yes. The only difference is that Christians have held sway over Jews longer and in more places than the other way around, but there is no denying that religious Jews persecuted Christians in the first century and no denying that secular Jews have persecuted Christians in recent centuries.
And there’s no denying that Israelis - at times - persecute Christians https://www.opendoorsusa.org/take-action/pray/christians-feel-growing-oppression-in-israel/ much the same way that Jews are targeted in Europe or North America. No side has clean hands in this.
“...peacefully practicing their own religion, the religion of their fathers going back 5,000 years, do not need to be told that.. “
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Freedom of religion and freedom of speech will not hurt their country any more than it has hurt ours!
Remind me again why Israel deserves my support?
This may be your preference but with the passage if the nation state law in 2018, this is no longer the reality.
A big change under this law is: “the right to exercise national self-determination” in Israel is “unique to the Jewish people.” --- Christian Israelis, Christian Arab Israelis, Muslim Arab Israelis, atheist/secular Israelis, and Druze are now a separate, lower class of citizen,
And ethnicity has nothing to do with this change. First class status in Israel is based upon one's religion and one religion, only: Judaism. Politically, tradition has prevented non-Jewish political parties from joining to form a government; this new law codifies that tradition. Now, by law, only Jewish Israelis have the right to determine what kind of state and society they live under
Benjamin Netanyahu called the passage of this law "a defining moment in the history of the state". He is right about this.
So I'd embrace Israel being a full-throated theocratic state now. The only other available option on the global stage is apartheid state.
Democracy, similar national goals, strategic partner. And if you’re an Evangelical, your pastor probably wants you to support it. And you can even go on a mission there. But apparently you can’t broadcast there as described in the article.
You’re the one names after a Roman demi-god. You figure it out.
So it’s okay for them to be bigots?
Proselytizing to anyone under 18 years old without parental consent is against the law in Israel, according to Israeli newspaper Haaretz, and the terms of the license issued to Shelanu, prohibit missionary programming. ... Israeli outlets report Christian channels Daystar and Middle East Television both broadcast on Israel's YES satellite TV and do not proselytize.
I agree with your post.
My point was (and is) - that to exercise that right, they do not have to be practicing Judaism, they don't have to even believe in God.
To be part of the "Jewish people" is not a religion - it's an ethnicity.
In their country, yes.
Similar national goals — you mean like making sure Christians are treated like a lower life form? That kind of similar national goals?
Strategic partner? Get real.
And no — my pastor’s not one of your Zion-bedazzled end-times-conjuring evangelicals.
Gosh, wolf milk must cause gas.
Israel does not have a 1st Amendment. Its a Jewish state first. It’s a fulfillment of Jewish prophecy (not Christian) in our modern world. Its revealed miracles of
G-d on a daily basis. Its not a question of if you’ll see it that way...it’s a question of when, of course. ;)
So much for the ridiculous claim that Israel and the USA have similar goals and values. Glad to get that on the record.
BTW, where is your citizenship?
Seriously? ‘Merica. USN vet. C’mon, man!
(But sshhhhhhh....I studied Joooodaism in Jerusalem for 2 years after that)
We don't have to like what they do, and shouldn't be expected to say that we do.
As a religious minority, I trust you’re grateful for the constitutional protections you enjoy in American — which you have no problem seeing denied to others in Israel.
What are your thoughts about the expulsion of Jews from England by Edward I, or from Spain by Ferdinand & Isabella? Fair’s fair, am I right? So — No hard feelings? Can we get you on the record about that?
Who is kicking Christians out of Israel?
That’s not your best argument.
I agree it’s un-equal but like my old CPA used to say, “Like my dad used to say, ‘Remember when I told you life was fair son?’ ‘No, Dad.’ ‘Exactly, son.’” Are you more pissed at the denial of Evangelical programming or some other affront to Catholics that I don’t even know about?
Surely you’re not a Messianic Christian, right?
And even if you were— Israel is different. It’s the Jewish state. I don’t even agree theologically that the government is a successor to the sovereignty of the times of the first and second temples. However once there—it’s the Jews’. I don’t think they should give an inch territoriality or theologically.
BTW we had a good thing going with Ghaddafi before Obama killed him. So our allies don’t need to be in political/governmental lock-step with us right?
Now let’s get practical— I’ve argued til blue in the fingertips with plenty on FR. We are all waiting for G-d to be revealed in the world aren’t we? At that time, let the Messiah tell us if he’s been here before (to quote Ravi Zacharias, may he live and be well.) And we can ask him his name then. Yeshu? Jesus? Menachem? Sprout? Emmanuel? Vinny Bagadonuts?
Thank G-d in America you and I can preach all we want.
Truly, no hard feelings. Come to south Florida and violate social distancing with me.
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