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Hands off the monuments to Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Grant!
wsws.org ^ | 6/22/2020 | Tom Mackaman and Niles Niemuth

Posted on 06/22/2020 12:39:05 PM PDT by Borges

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1 posted on 06/22/2020 12:39:05 PM PDT by Borges
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... who waged an insurrection to defend slavery...

Wasn't an insurrection, and slavery didn't need to be defended in the USA of 1860. It was legal and would have remained legal in the USA but for the war.

2 posted on 06/22/2020 12:41:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Borges

We will soon see statues erected to police officer murderers ???


3 posted on 06/22/2020 12:43:58 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want Americva to fail and die)
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To: Borges

Hands off all statues.

No mob rule. And no more trying to appease the howling mob by feeding it the “bad” statues, “bad” books, “bad” base names, “bad” movies, etc.

Stand up to the mob.


4 posted on 06/22/2020 12:47:27 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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+1.


5 posted on 06/22/2020 12:48:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Dagnabitt

But it does say a lot when Trotskyites are more respectful of American ideals than the Democratic party.


6 posted on 06/22/2020 12:49:47 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Oh, I see.

Historical monuments shouldn’t be defaced or removed.

But, if they don’t conform to post-modern historical dogma, take ‘em down.


7 posted on 06/22/2020 12:50:05 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: Borges

No, hands off ALL the monuments. Grant, Lee, Columbus, Washington, doesn’t matter. ALL THE MONUMENTS.

Except the Seattle statue of Lenin. Blow that sucker up.

}:-)4


8 posted on 06/22/2020 12:51:15 PM PDT by Moose4 (I am father to a teenager. My opinion is invalid.)
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To: Borges

The monuments should be guarded and desecrators SHOT on the spot. It’s time to re-establish the rule of law in America.

ML/NJ


9 posted on 06/22/2020 12:52:35 PM PDT by ml/nj
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No one can object to the removal of monuments to the leaders of the Confederacy, who dedicated their lives to the rejection of the thesis that “all men are created equal.” These figures sought to “wring their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces,” in the words of Lincoln’s second inaugural address.


This really jumps out at me. So to these authors, it’s ok to tear down statues commemorating the South or the Confederacy in the Civil War. No one can object, they claim. Their only concern is that the mob is going after people they think are deserving of honor, not the concept of mobs tearing down statues to people or causes they disagree with.


10 posted on 06/22/2020 12:54:20 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Destroying history is not al carte. If the CSA goes so to goes slavery and everything else.


11 posted on 06/22/2020 12:55:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Check the source of this article.


12 posted on 06/22/2020 12:56:33 PM PDT by Borges
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On Friday, protesters in San Francisco knocked over a statue of Ulysses S. Grant, who commanded the Union to victory in the Civil War and suppressed the Ku Klux Klan during Reconstruction.
What do you expect from living Democrats?

13 posted on 06/22/2020 1:10:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ml/nj

If not shot, at least forcibly removed. And cities shouldn’t be able to be intimidated and get the city council or the mayor to approve it. And De Blasio and his hideous wife should be ridden out of town on a rail for removing Jefferson and Lincoln.

They’re scared to remove Columbus because the Italians are defending him. And Hispanics are too, because while he was Italian born, he sailed for Spain. Queen Isabella paid for his voyages.

But Americans of any background have got to start defending our statues.


14 posted on 06/22/2020 1:33:37 PM PDT by livius
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“But the justifiable demand for the removal of monuments to these defenders of racial inequality ...”

It’s not that clear cut. There were motivations beyond the racial angle and there were racists and anti racists on both sides.. These are undeniable historical figures and their statues have a place anywhere the citizens welcome them. Question: How many of these toppled statues were taken down by members of the community in which they stood? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Communism is the most degraded and murderous of systems in history. Shouldn’t all statues honoring these butchers be sent to scrap?


15 posted on 06/22/2020 1:35:05 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Their only concern is that the mob is going after people they think are deserving of honor, not the concept of mobs tearing down statues to people or causes they disagree with.

+1.

16 posted on 06/22/2020 1:44:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Borges

“...The monuments to the leaders of the seceded states were erected in a period of political reaction following the end of Reconstruction, with the aim of legitimizing the Confederacy as part of the “lost cause” school of historiography, which denied the revolutionary character of the American Civil War. ...”

I’ve said it before - just as the south was raising monuments post reconstruction the morth was doing the same.

Interesting that this rush to build monuments in both the north and south really picked up steam from around 1900 to 1920.

1920 was 55 years after the war. The vets were dying off in big numbers by then.

Just for reference - our country’s WW II National Memorial was dedicated May 29, 2004 - 59 years after the end of WW II


17 posted on 06/22/2020 2:15:52 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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"No one can object to the removal of monuments to the leaders of the Confederacy"

I can and do object to the destruction of historical artifacts. How presumptuous to tell me what I can and cannot object to.
18 posted on 06/22/2020 2:49:41 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: DocRock

Check the source of this article.


19 posted on 06/22/2020 2:58:23 PM PDT by Borges
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No one can object to the removal of monuments to the leaders of the Confederacy

F this.

20 posted on 06/22/2020 2:59:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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